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BREAKING: add support for k8s disable-node-collector flag #6311

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Add support for k8s intrusive flag

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@chen-keinan chen-keinan force-pushed the feat/k8s-intrusive-flag-support branch from f9cdd94 to 98546fc Compare March 14, 2024 10:06
@chen-keinan chen-keinan changed the title feat: add support for k8s intrusive flag feat: add support for k8s --skip-intrusive flag Mar 17, 2024
@chen-keinan chen-keinan marked this pull request as ready for review March 18, 2024 14:41
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@chen-keinan chen-keinan force-pushed the feat/k8s-intrusive-flag-support branch 2 times, most recently from b72cc65 to 74f8221 Compare March 31, 2024 12:25
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It's a breaking change, right? We need a BREAKING prefix in the PR title.

Also, the integration test is failing.

@chen-keinan chen-keinan changed the title feat: add support for k8s --skip-intrusive flag BREAKING: add support for k8s --skip-intrusive flag Apr 1, 2024
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chen-keinan commented Apr 1, 2024

@knqyf263 @itaysk is --non-intrusive more appropriate than --skip-intrusive as a flag name ?

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knqyf263 commented Apr 1, 2024

First of all, I don't mind. @itaysk and you can decide it. I'm just thinking out loud. If the default mode is intrusive, should we consider a more understated name for the non-intrusive mode (such as --passive or --unobtrusive) rather than --non-intrusive?

In some cases, negating a well-known or intuitive term can effectively convey the intended meaning. If "intrusive" is a term that users are likely to understand in the context of Trivy, then using "non-intrusive" as the flag name might be the most straightforward way to communicate the opposite behavior.

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itaysk commented Apr 1, 2024

In my opinion, --intrusive/--non-intrusive is fine. even though it doesn't convey the actual benefit for the user (like node-collect or deep or something like that), it gives the more important decision factor which is that this will actually create a job in the scanned cluster. I think generally a scanner is expected to be read-only, and manipulating the scan target is unconventional, and the user should understand the consequence.
This makes me think that perhaps it's even better to default to non-intrusive, and make the user explicitly say --intrusive in order to deploy the job, because there's inherent friction and risk in this action (as users reported). Even if we want and recommend that most users will do intrusive scan (and all our docs will include it by default), this puts the responsibility on the user for initiating the intrusive action rather than the tool to automatically do so. Akin to some tools requiring you to add --yes in order to perform the action.

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I think --intrusive/--non-intrusive is the best terminology, and I'm leaning towards non-intrusive by default (but not fixed on this)

@chen-keinan chen-keinan changed the title BREAKING: add support for k8s --skip-intrusive flag BREAKING: add support for k8s --non-intrusive flag Apr 2, 2024
@chen-keinan chen-keinan force-pushed the feat/k8s-intrusive-flag-support branch 2 times, most recently from 7f95e5d to c23dcbb Compare April 2, 2024 09:07
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itaysk commented Apr 3, 2024

after discussing this offline with @chen-keinan we agreed to not change the current default behavior, meaning by default the scan will be intrusive and the user can set a --non-intrusive flag to opt out.

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knqyf263 commented Apr 3, 2024

I know the context well and it is difficult to get an impartial view of how people feel about current behavior. I'd request a quick review from @simar7.

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simar7 commented Apr 3, 2024

I know the context well and it is difficult to get an impartial view of how people feel about current behavior. I'd request a quick review from @simar7.

As I was summoned, I would like to provide my feedback.

I think there are two problems to solve here:

  1. Flag name
  2. Flag default behavior

Problem 1
I think personally, I would lean towards flags that are more "obvious" or "commonly used". To me "intrusive" (or lack thereof) doesn't tell me what's really intrusive about it. To understand this I would have to read the Trivy docs to know the default behavior (or read the help for CLI flags).

While as something like --node-collector-disable (or something similar) conveys exactly what is being done, aka node collector scan results are being disabled. This also lines up well with existing --node-collector-* flags that we currently have within Trivy.

Problem 2
If we change the flag name to something as I mentioned above, we can keep the current behavior as-is and have this flag opt-in. This would help us not make a breaking change.

@chen-keinan chen-keinan force-pushed the feat/k8s-intrusive-flag-support branch from c23dcbb to 4179e48 Compare April 4, 2024 06:30
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Thanks @simar7. Feedback from someone unfamiliar with k8s scanning is valuable.

On the other hand, we may be able to make the assumption that people who use the k8s subcommand should be somewhat familiar with it.

We can also take the view that it is okay because the CLI help provides supplementary explanations.

      --non-intrusive                     When the flag is activated, the node-collector job will not be executed, thus skipping misconfiguration findings on the node.

The final decision should be made by the code owner, Chen, so I'll approve it.

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itaysk commented Apr 4, 2024

I agree with simar and wrote similar gist on the --deep PR. node-collector works too IMO

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I know the context well and it is difficult to get an impartial view of how people feel about current behavior. I'd request a quick review from @simar7.

As I was summoned, I would like to provide my feedback.

I think there are two problems to solve here:

  1. Flag name
  2. Flag default behavior

Problem 1 I think personally, I would lean towards flags that are more "obvious" or "commonly used". To me "intrusive" (or lack thereof) doesn't tell me what's really intrusive about it. To understand this I would have to read the Trivy docs to know the default behavior (or read the help for CLI flags).

While as something like --node-collector-disable (or something similar) conveys exactly what is being done, aka node collector scan results are being disabled. This also lines up well with existing --node-collector-* flags that we currently have within Trivy.

Problem 2 If we change the flag name to something as I mentioned above, we can keep the current behavior as-is and have this flag opt-in. This would help us not make a breaking change.

@simar7 thanks for the input, putting a flag --disable-node-collector make it more understandable and specific for what actually this flag do.

@chen-keinan chen-keinan changed the title BREAKING: add support for k8s --non-intrusive flag BREAKING: add support for k8s disable-node-collector flag Apr 15, 2024
@chen-keinan chen-keinan force-pushed the feat/k8s-intrusive-flag-support branch from 4179e48 to 7e8c80d Compare April 15, 2024 06:00
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simar7 commented Apr 26, 2024

@chen-keinan reviewed again and left one comment but overall lgtm!

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@chen-keinan reviewed again and left one comment but overall lgtm!

@simar7 thanks for the review , I do not see the comment you mention

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simar7 commented Apr 27, 2024

@chen-keinan reviewed again and left one comment but overall lgtm!

@simar7 thanks for the review , I do not see the comment you mention

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@chen-keinan chen-keinan force-pushed the feat/k8s-intrusive-flag-support branch from 224322f to 22e51a6 Compare April 27, 2024 15:35
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simar7 commented Apr 28, 2024

@chen-keinan lgtm!

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