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@Cadair Cadair commented Oct 30, 2025

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pllim commented Oct 30, 2025

As discussed on Slack, if this does not happen, Matrix users would have to actually create Slack accounts. Creating Slack user accounts is free. So my questions are:

  • Under what condition would a user have access to Matrix but not Slack? Geopolitical stuff or just user relunctance?
  • How many users will actually be affected?

Thanks!

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pllim commented Oct 30, 2025

And I would like to keep the scope of discussion here to Astropy users, not other projects that rely on Matrix.

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eteq commented Nov 6, 2025

@Cadair - this FR doesn't connect back to the roadmap, which is likely to lead to lower funding priority. That said, I suspect that might be intentional since it explicitly says "None" for the relevant roadmap items.

That being said, I think you're not being fair to your own proposal with that "none"! While I myself might not like it 😉, I think you could make a reasonable case that some of the roadmap items under https://github.com/astropy/astropy-project/blob/main/roadmap/roadmap.md#community-building-and-sustainability are relevant.

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hamogu commented Nov 18, 2025

I want to echo @pllim question here:

How many users will actually be affected?

If we don't know exact numbers, even an order-of-magnitude estimate would be useful. Is it just 1 user? Or are there 100 (which would still make this 30 $ / user)?

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Cadair commented Nov 18, 2025

I can try and run the stats, but I don't know how quickly I will be able to do that.

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Cadair commented Nov 18, 2025

Based on rough statistics over the last two years approximately 10% of active users on bridged chats were on matrix (out of a total of 213 active users).

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eteq commented Nov 25, 2025

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pllim commented Nov 25, 2025

10% of active users

So we're talking about 20 people?

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Cadair commented Nov 26, 2025

yeah

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pllim commented Nov 26, 2025

$3000 for 20 people = $150/pax (not including future maintenance)

Not sure if this is worth it.

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kelle commented Dec 8, 2025

The Cycle 5 funding request process has been hugely successful! On the downside, that means our funds are severely oversubscribed. Even after the Finance Committee and SPOC have taken into consideration community feedback/voting and alignment with the roadmap, there are still more funding requests than we can afford in 2026.

We would like to stretch the budget as far as possible, and to fund as many activities as possible, while making sure the Project remains volunteer-driven. Hence, we would like to know if this project will still meet its deliverables if your minimum budget is reduced by 25%, 50%, or 100%. Or if there’s some other minimum, feel free to specify that instead.

As a reminder, there will be more funding for 2027 and we expect the Cycle 6 call for 2027 funding requests to begin in the Fall of 2026.

Thank you for your engagement and understanding as we continue to optimize our funding and budgeting processes and the balance of volunteer vs funded work!

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Cadair commented Dec 10, 2025

This isn't being funded anyway, but this is the minimum needed.

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