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Should AsyncAPI Initiative endorse United Nations Global Digital Compact? #1577

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derberg opened this issue Nov 4, 2024 · 16 comments
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derberg commented Nov 4, 2024

On 22nd of September this year, 193 member states of the United Nations General Assembly approved the Pact For The Future. The Pact includes (among many other positive actions) the Global Digital Compact, a worldwide commitment to ensure that digital technologies contribute to sustainable development and human rights, while addressing risks like digital divides, cybersecurity, and misuse of technology.

What it has to do with open-source

Policymakers noticed the existence of open-source. Good and scary.
European Union did not shine with Cyber Resilience Act and got a lot of pushback from the open-source community.

Looks like the United Nations learned from it. They not only organize open source focused events but also call for different organizations to join efforts.

Quote from Global Digital Compact:

We recognize that digital public goods, which include open-source software,
open data, open artificial intelligence models, open standards and open content that
adhere to privacy and other applicable international laws, standards and best practices
and do no harm, empower societies and individuals to direct digital technologies to
their development needs and can facilitate digital cooperation and investment.

What does it have to do with the AsyncAPI Initiative?

Quote from Global Digital Compact:

We commit by, 2030, to:
(a) Develop, disseminate and maintain, through multi-stakeholder cooperation,
safe and secure open-source software, open data, open artificial intelligence models and
open standards that benefit society as a whole (SDGs 8, 9 and 10);
(b) Promote the adoption of open standards and interoperability to facilitate
the use of digital public goods across different platforms and systems (all SDGs);

In short: there is a push for adopting and maintaining standards on a global scale.

AsyncAPI is an open standard. It is the only open-source standard that can be used by adopters of event-driven architectures to ensure interoperability.

We already see a set of different adopters from different industries adopting AsyncAPI and public institutions will do it too. Actually, we already know about one, it is used in pagopa.it that is an Italian public company providing payment services for administration.

Global Digital Compact is directly related to us as the Technical Community (one of organization types they recognize).

What is next?

I want to recommend we, as AsyncAPI Initiative community, endorse the UN efforts. I think we must join the efforts, and make an impact early to not be surprised later.

UN is a global political organization, so I want to make sure we are all aligned and I will not take the next steps if I don't see support from our TSC.

I personally believe it is an amazing initiative and not just a show-off for the public. I already noticed a positive change early this year and believe the move cannot be stopped, and with the support of open-source communities it can only be for the good.

This is a declaration I want to submit. Objective 1 is most critical:
Screenshot 2024-11-04 at 19 01 19

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Please approve the request for official endorsement of Global Digital Compact.

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derberg commented Nov 4, 2024

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theschles commented Nov 4, 2024

Before anybody rubber-stamps the GDC, please consider:

  1. Where is the UN voting record -- e.g. which UN countries against it?

  2. There's some significant criticism out there about the GDC:

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derberg commented Nov 4, 2024

Where is the UN voting record -- e.g. which UN countries against it?

can you explain what you mean and how is this relevant for voting? UN has 193 member states and all were involved in negotiations. There were some politics as there usually are: https://www.freiheit.org/human-rights-hub-geneva/global-digital-compact-adopted-un-member-states

does that matter what countries were against? or you just mention it as an interesting fact?

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@derberg could you possibly explain what entails these efforts like some examples regarding what we would be doing would be great.

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derberg commented Nov 5, 2024

@Shurtu-gal for me critical is to be involved from the point of view of EDA standards that they might be focusing on. To basically assure AsyncAPI is picked as standard. To make our voice visible.

For example AsyncAPI is picked as standard by IATA and it was much easier to reach because they learned about AsyncAPI at our AsyncAPI Conference in Paris, then we got connected and I resented AsyncAPI on their API-related working group. If we would not be open to help, that would be much harder to achieve I think. Although of course one can say that they anyway have no option and have to pick up AsyncAPI. We also know the same is happening in another completely different industry, not aviation but telecoms (some TSC members and Ambassadors were involved)

So for me it clearly means, we need to join UN when they will work on global standards. Especially in public domain, it is normal that organizations, governmants and other publicly-owned agencies look into well established standards and not come up with their own.

The only difference is that in case of IATA or any other standardisation organization for any industry, we do not have to align much. But since UN is political organization, I want to make sure we are very much aligned.

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derberg commented Nov 11, 2024

@asyncapi/tsc_members kind reminder to take a vote

Remember, you can use 👀 if you are ok with any decision and think the topic is irrelevant.

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So far 15.38% of the users with binding vote are in favor (passing threshold: 51%).

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whitlockjc In favor 2024-11-11 15:04:14.0 +00:00:00
thulieblack In favor 2024-11-11 10:45:45.0 +00:00:00
anshgoyalevil In favor 2024-11-11 10:22:02.0 +00:00:00
Shurtu-gal In favor 2024-11-05 13:29:51.0 +00:00:00
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ivangsa commented Nov 11, 2024

While I appreciate very much your effort, I will vote against, and would stay away from politics. I prefer pursuing adoption from informed individuals, whether they belong to an organization or not.

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derberg commented Nov 12, 2024

@ivangsa I hugely appreciate your vote! For me what matters most is not the result of the voting, but the participation rate.

@ivangsa @jonaslagoni please share a vote on #1577 (comment) comment, otherwise technically your vote will not count

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derberg commented Nov 13, 2024

/check-vote

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So far 30.77% of the users with binding vote are in favor (passing threshold: 51%).

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smoya Against 2024-11-12 9:32:13.0 +00:00:00
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GreenRover Against 2024-11-12 9:08:21.0 +00:00:00
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derberg In favor 2024-11-12 22:29:46.0 +00:00:00
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In the interest of explaining the reasoning behind my vote against, it was largely driven by the concerns summarised in https://open-internet-governance.org/letter

I was split between abstaining or voting against, as I certainly don't have a deep enough understanding of the nuances of GDC. Ultimately the concerns outlined in the letter (and in some of the analyses linked to from there - example) led me to think that perhaps our time would be better invested in participating in more open, less political standards-setting groups.

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theschles commented Nov 14, 2024

Where is the UN voting record -- e.g. which UN countries against it?

can you explain what you mean and how is this relevant for voting? UN has 193 member states and all were involved in negotiations. There were some politics as there usually are: https://www.freiheit.org/human-rights-hub-geneva/global-digital-compact-adopted-un-member-states

does that matter what countries were against? or you just mention it as an interesting fact?

Hi @derberg ,

Knowing who votes against a UN resolution is eye-opening.

In this case (thank you for the article link):

The Republic of the Congo reacted by introducing a _motion of no action_ in regards to the amendment. Most states welcomed this motion and it was adopted by vote:

143 in favor

7 against (Belarus, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Iran, Nicaragua, Russian Federation, Sudan, Syria)

15 abstentions Algeria, Bolivia, China, Cuba, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Kiribati, Lao, Malaysia, Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Thailand)

The Pact of the Future, and thereby the GDC, were then adopted by consensus, without a vote. 

[my emphasis added]

If I'm not mistaken, a large portion of those who voted against a "motion of no action" are dictatorships and monarchies -- who unsurprisingly do not want more open-ness in their societies.

That said, this was passed by consensus without a vote? Something this big?

I'm not comfortable with that, nor with the concerns that I identified above. Hence my vote "no".

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derberg commented Nov 14, 2024

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So far 34.21% of the users with binding vote are in favor (passing threshold: 51%).

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imabp In favor 2024-11-11 10:49:24.0 +00:00:00
fmvilas In favor 2024-11-11 11:11:40.0 +00:00:00
whitlockjc In favor 2024-11-11 15:04:14.0 +00:00:00
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Samridhi-98 In favor 2024-11-13 14:23:51.0 +00:00:00
dalelane Against 2024-11-13 14:42:39.0 +00:00:00
theschles Against 2024-11-14 3:55:37.0 +00:00:00
derberg In favor 2024-11-12 22:29:46.0 +00:00:00
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