Live Desktop on USB stick boots so slowly that I gave up #3090
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hmm please consider using the img not the iso
…On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 3:23 PM patogit ***@***.***> wrote:
Clear Linux versions:
41180 and 41270, both behave the same
Steps to reproduce:
- Read the documentation.
- Download Clear Linux ISO.
- Verify checksum of ISO file.
- Use Popsicle USB Flasher in Pop OS to put the ISO on a 16 GB SanDisk
Extreme USB 3 stick that I have used for countless other GNU/Linux
installations.
- Boot the Thinkpad T470 or T470s from the USB stick.
- Watch text fly by for 6.8 seconds, and then wait about 30 seconds
between all of subsequent messages.
- [6.8] switch_root:
- [6.8] failed to unlink mnt
- [6.8] : Directory not empty
- [37.6] systemd[1]: systemd 255 running in system mode (+PAM
+AUDIT -SELINUX -APPARMOR +IMA -SMACK +SECCOMP +GCRYPT +GNUTLS +OPENSSL
+ACL +BLKID +CURL +ELFUTILS +FIDO2 -IDN2 -IDN +IPTC +KMOD +LIBCRYPTSETUP
+LIBFDISK -PCRE2 +PWQUALITY +P11KIT -QRENCODE +TMP2 +BZIP2 -LZ4 -XZ +ZLIB
+ZSTD -BPF_FRAMEWORK +XKBCOMMON +UTMP -SYSVINIT default-hierarchy=hybrid)
- [37.6] systemd[1]: Detected architecture x86-64.
- [67.7] systemd[1]: Hostname set to .
- [68.1] systemd-gpt-auto-generator[304]: EFI loader partition
unknown, exiting.
- [68.1] systemd-gpt-auto-generator[304]: (The boot loader did not
set FEI variable LoaderDevicePartUUID.)
- [98.5] systemd[1]: Queued start job for default target
graphical.target.
- [98.5] systemd[1]: Created slice system-getty.slice.
- From there, the boot keeps moving along slowly. I'm copying this by
hand, and none of the text looks important to copy here. The verbs are:
created, started, set up, expecting, reached, listening, skipped,
listening, mounting, starting. I had enough patience to get to [914.0]
systemd[1]: starting systemd-journald.service...
Expected outcome:
Every other GNU/Linux distro I have booted from a USB stick during the
past 15 years takes maybe 60 seconds to boot. The slow ones maybe 120
seconds. This is going more than 15 minutes and still has not finished
booting.
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Switch to Ventoy. Works wonderfully. Fast and everything. |
@fenrus75 , my USB stick is 16 GB (Popsicle says 14.9 GiB). The .img is 16.1 GB (Popsicle says 15.0 GiB), so that won't fit on my USB stick. That leaves me with the question, Why publish the ISO if it doesn't work? Why is this booting so slowly?
@Aqua1ung , my problem isn't about flashing the USB, it's about booting the operating system from the USB. I flashed the same USB stick with the same software two days ago with a Bluefin ISO, and it booted fine. |
Yes, that is what Ventoy does. |
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@Aqua1ung as I mentioned, I have no problem making a USB from any other distro and booting it successfully. However, just to be complete and follow the suggestions here, I installed Ventoy on my USB, copied the version 41270 ISO to the USB, booted that, and got exactly the same result as before: an incredibly slow boot process. I was really looking forward to using Clear Linux, but I can't get it to boot from USB or in a VM or in a Distrobox, so for now, I am leaving behind Clear Linux. I hope it works someday, as it seems like a very well designed distro. |
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same problem here any news? EDIT: same USB stick on my desktop boot without problem, on thinkpad not |
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I'm not yet an experienced CLOS user nor tinkerer but I saw this looking for helpful material on #2830 and #3146 on and was surprised. On Alma 8.1 using Gnome Boxes on a core i5-7300U with 5GB vRAM I boot CLOS well within expected timeframes. This was to the live desktop. An issue occurring for me was during live install minimum disk free (20GB) was not met. I have seen what @patogit describes as excessive boot time with a Fedora based rolling spin (Nobara). Its community support thought that was likely due to a Gnome-boxes issue and didn't believe it affected flashed ISO media bootups into their live OS. Only that particular spin release was impacted and it falls in the the same kernel release timeframe (6.6-6.8). Perhaps in PopOS, CL*OS desired release (iSO for sure if it exists, .img not sure) can be spun up in a Gnome Box to reevaluate? If there's a performance increase seen on a T46, then booting of CLOS from duplicated CLOS ISO media (now supplied on a different cadence since release 41810 it appears) may have implications re. flash itself (durability+IOPS). If CL*OS has any basis in Fedora whatsoever (only mentioning this because of dnf and rpm usage alluded to in guides) that would an interesting find. |
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I'm getting the same problem with my USB. At the same time, the same flash drive works well on my older laptop. Maybe something is wrong with my BIOS settings, I do not know. |
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I try it on my 2 PC, use Ventoy to boot installation media. Final I found the temp solution at #3141 |
Clear Linux versions:
41180 and 41270, both behave the same
Steps to reproduce:
Expected outcome:
Every other GNU/Linux distro I have booted from a USB stick during the past 15 years takes maybe 60 seconds to boot. The slow ones maybe 120 seconds. This is going more than 15 minutes and still has not finished booting.
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