Youtube ads

[VE9SY]

Since Dec 20th, You tube detects this extension and sees the ad blocker and will not let me see videos. Had to disable it to get on YouTube.

[ImprovedTube]

hi and thanks! in fact we had 1000s of extra uninstalls in the last few days.
i read these two might also trigger it: uBlock filters – Quick fixes ( 172 ) uBlock filters – Annoyances ( 5923 )
similar happened last year #1809

@VE9SY are you sure disabling our extension helped? can you try again with each feature, one by one (there is "my active features" in the top right)
Please paste your Experiment flags or whole Youtube DOM (F12 key) (or ctrl+u)
And it only happened logged in to Youtube?

thanks!

[ImprovedTube]

Merry Christmas! @code-charity/contributors

[4yman-0]

I can watch videos and ads with Ads Off (Block or Skip). Nothing is blocked, nothing is skipped, YouTube does not tell me that there is an ad blocker.

[xeophyte]

Because uBlock filters – Quick fixes is already updated/fixed.

[merlin555]

@4yman-0

Works perfectly for me with Firefox and Vivaldi.
Please more information.
Which browser and version if it is not the most current.
Do you have any other blockers active?
Just like uBlock or Ghostery?

[4yman-0]

Browser: Chromium (basically Google Chrome) recent version.

• No blocking: uBlock disabled, ImprovedTube enabled
• Blocking: uBlock enabled

uBlock filters:

My filters

uBlock filters – Ads
40,633 used out of 40,870

uBlock filters – Privacy
1,662 used out of 1,685

uBlock filters – Quick fixes
172 used out of 172

uBlock filters – Unbreak
2,547 used out of 2,547

EasyPrivacy
53,180 used out of 53,330

Dan Pollock’s hosts file
11,717 used out of 11,717

uBlock filters – Annoyances
5,950 used out of 5,962

[VE9SY]

I disabled Ublock origins, and the flaw disappeared. Of course we got commercials. After a while I reactivated it and now it seems to work fine. If any other problems come up eill try to go as you say and send you the information.

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[ghost]

A couple months ago when YouTube escalated their adblock war, my Ghostery and Adblock extensions made YouTube entirely unusable. So I had to disable them, adding them to the "allow exceptions = youtube.com etc."

Google owns both of these two biggest search engines and with their business partners, most of the rest of the internet. Their business model is ad and ecommerce driven, so anyone blocking ads on YouTube is seriously outmatched in this war, which is a guaranteed losing battle in the long run. You can win small victories but they will win out in the end. The more you change how you do things the more their extremely well funded, well equipped, university educated departments can adapt and readjust. So fighting ads becomes a waste of time from the start.

How could someone ask a company to do business with them (having an extension that modifies their website) while also pulling their only income from under their feet at the same time? It doesn't make sense. Of course YouTube isn't going to cooperate with ad blockers.

So my strategy has been to pay the YouTube Premium fee. I pay annually (cheaper, and less annoying bank charges) and use the adblockers for everything else. And can use YouTube Music instead of paying for Spotify etc. A monthly fee isn't on the table for some people but damn is it so much better than seeing ads. I haven't seen a YouTube ad in like four years.

No matter how much external ads are removed from YouTube, increasingly the creators are injecting affiliate ads within the videos themselves. So again it's all a waste of time fighting ads when the creators can circumvent ad blocking themselves. Using extensions like SponsorBlock is pretty dank, but is becoming necessary, unfortunately. As we are seeing so many YouTubers don't give a damn about the content they are creating anyways, they are just in it for the money. And we are all just wallets to them.

[merlin555]

You can try clearing the cache and, above all, it is important to restart the browser.
Also re-import the exporting settings, but first reset everything, has helped me a lot with problems like this.

I see it completely differently.
I'm always happy to pay for good things.
But I certainly don't want to support a company like Google with money.
They already have enough and are already suffocating from having too much money.

Why not fight it?
Should we accept all of this?
Just as Google doesn't want to listen to its users at all, we should then have to pay them for it.

And it's certainly inaccurate to say that they will ultimately win.

[ImprovedTube]

Proud of you guys! We could make topics with many comments appear bold/bigger in the extension

The uninstalls might be trial & error /confusion, since when asking back nobody kept thinking it was this
extension. ( if it was ublock only, did you wonder to update this thread then? @VE9SY) )
Else we can simply remove our ad-blocking feature to make sure (it doesn't have many users.)
(Both unless YouTube has false alarms through other tweaks.)

[ImprovedTube]

guaranteed losing battle

besides 'it's not rocket science', but volunteer developers might just work during holidays and get tired of repetitive/circular work sooner or later (#1881) ( and in case of extensions of course capabilities depend on the few commercial browser standards makers..)

Updating our features & working without APIs can be similarly annoying, besides we have enough users and team-efficiency is realistic. If we could take only $0.01/week per feature, only from power-users and only in rich countries, that would still make enough income to hire 50 times faster development or so :)

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The case against ads:
Ads still tend to be underpaid, underbought, oversold:
Publishers might not set any minimum bid (not even $0.01 per minute of attention).
(Just like...?..world economy still enables nutritional starvation even)

So the publishers commit to own (part-time-)slaves;
the viewers find mental poverty.
(and the world would be better already, simply requiring some minimum price /quality.)

Some ads can be helpful to both sides.
Few ads are priced right. For example 1% might make 75% of the revenue.
So it's a rather destructive decision to allow scammy products, or mental terror games with 'sexy zombies' not for kids. And hard to explain with commerce only. (It might be a loss to the publishers, to show you all the bad ones in between the few good ones. Regardless of that business doesn't need victims. And 'survival of the fittest' is pessimism/dystopia. And big efficient entities can/should afford the highest, growing standards. But simply, if you wrote a specific blog
for example, about and earned $xyz / month, then you might see even more revenue (instead of less), soon after setting a minimum bid, disabling most of all the ads.)

my strategy has been to pay the YouTube Premium

(yes, only expensive, when you don't plan to use it many hours per year (like most people) (let alone considering that the majority of people still live/survive on $0-10/day)

[VE9SY]

hi and thanks! in fact we had 1000s of extra uninstalls in the last few days. i read these two might also trigger it: uBlock filters – Quick fixes ( 172 ) uBlock filters – Annoyances ( 5923 ) similar happened last year #1809

@VE9SY are you sure disabling our extension helped? can you try again with each feature, one by one (there is "my active features" in the top right) Please paste your Experiment flags or whole Youtube DOM (F12 key) (or ctrl+u) And it only happened logged in to Youtube?

thanks!

Yes it did, I then played a video and to test it again I re-enabled the extension, and problem went away. I don't have Ublock origin as suggested it one post. Just this. No Idea what happened. I guess you tube blew a fuse. I have the extention working and now you tube is fine. I use Youtube premium, so I don't get ads anyway??? Who knows what they did.

[ImprovedTube]

thank you! @VE9SY
good to know this exactly!

sorry @ Clean Circuit (hope the thumbs down didnt upset you :( ) Merry Christmas!

[jscongdon]

Brave Browser
uBlock Origin installed and enabled
Force AutoPlay off is my only enabled feature.
With IYT enabled, the first frame of the video shows, but selecting play does nothing, I just get the spinning buffering logo
As soon as I disable the IYT plugin and refresh the page, the video plays fine.

[VE9SY]

thank you! @VE9SY good to know this exactly!

sorry @ Clean Circuit (hope the thumbs down didnt upset you :( ) Merry Christmas!

Not at all. Was not your fault, wasn't mine. Didn't work one day, shut down for the night and boom is working fine now. Great little ad on! Was just something in Windows, Firefox, or on you tube got changed. But everything worked out in the end. If people did not like that I reported a possible bug, oh well. All worked out now without you doing any thing, or without me having to do anything. YouTube just likes to throw fits now and then. This time it was my turn.