NetworkManager-team & teamd not included in C10S

[travier]

According to:

• https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/NetworkManager/-/commit/2d2f70f74f4950b2dc6eef7e9541f32e6da0544f
• https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-24693

libteam support is being removed in C10S. We should probably consider the implications for FCOS.

We added it in coreos/fedora-coreos-config#289

[dustymabe]

TBH I doubt many people would be using it so if we need to remove support from FCOS I think it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I wonder:

• will it be removed from upstream or from Fedora?
• even if it isn't removed from upstream or from Fedora should we consider removing it from FCOS?

[travier]

• https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/9.4_release_notes/deprecated-functionality#deprecated-functionality-networking
• https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/configuring_and_managing_networking/configuring-network-teaming_configuring-and-managing-networking#proc_migrating-a-network-team-configuration-to-network-bond_configuring-network-teaming

[jbtrystram]

This item was discussed in today's community meeting :

will it be removed from upstream or from Fedora?

even if it isn't removed from upstream or from Fedora should we consider removing it from FCOS?

<@dustymabe:matrix.org> in the case of 1. we have no decision to make here - just action for when it happens
<@dustymabe:matrix.org> in the case of 2. we'd need to decide that
<@dustymabe:matrix.org> maybe let's find out the answer to 1. first and then we can discuss 2. ?

<@jbtrystram:matrix.org> !action ravanelli to contact the libteam maintainers to figure out if they intend to drop the package from fedora

See the full meeting notes : https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meeting-1_matrix_fedoraproject-org/2024-05-15/fedora-coreos-meeting.2024-05-15-16.29.log.html

[cgwalters]

xref https://gitlab.com/fedora/bootc/base-images/-/merge_requests/19 (note this also intersects with #1726 )

[travier]

Suggested plan of action:

1. Send an announcement to the coreos-status mailing list and other communication places to ask for users and warn on planned removal in Fedora 41 if no answer before Fedora 41 Beta freeze date
2. Write a CLHM & do the manifest changes
3. Announce the removal as part of Fedora 41 Beta rebase in next

[ravanelli]

Just updating it here with the answer I got back from the libteam :

The removal of libteam is only targeting c10s and rhel-10. Actually this commit is already merged upstream: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/merge_requests/1921/diffs?commit_id=bc73478a49b22131dfe278b1b9801ac5b0702617.
Also, based on this comment: https://issues.redhat.com/browse/RHEL-22999?focusedId=23924774&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#commen[…]924774 libteam will not be removed from Fedora.