Low data / cellular mode [325,000 sats]

[alltheseas]

User Story

As a Damus pleb who uses app on the go (cellular), I want to have a setting where I can turn down Damus data needs (data saver mode), so that I don't surpass my celullar carrier's data throttling threshold, AND so that my events post thereby avoiding poor Damus experience(s).

Acceptance Criteria

1. In settings Damus user can set cellular mode on
2. By setting cellular mode, Damus automagically detects when Damus is not on wi-fi, and reduces data demands
3. This setting is turned on automatically, if it detects low data mode on iOS (see iOS reference https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210596)
4. User can clearly see that Damus is performing in low data mode
5. in low data mode:
   -damus does not auto-load new images (related to settings -> appearance -> media previews setting)
   -damus does not auto-load new videos (related to settings -> appearance -> media previews setting)
   -damus does not auto-load new link previews (does this use significant data?)
   -damues does not load new profile banners
   -damus does not load new pfps

questions

-does the refresh mechanism change in low data mode
-design: @robagreda what does "low data mode" status look like? how might we display low data mode to the user when it is on? should low data mode icon be displayed all the time?
-design: @robagreda how might we allow user to change low data mode setting (when not on wi-fi) without having to send user deep in the settings menus?
-design: does user have a mechanism to manually load an image as a one off, video while in low data mode?

[alltheseas]

#645 #965
would reduce bandwidth requirements

[alltheseas]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2593971/iphone-simulator-simulate-a-slow-connection

https://download.developer.apple.com/Developer_Tools/Additional_Tools_for_Xcode_14.3_Release_Candidate/Additional_Tools_for_Xcode_14.3_Release_Candidate.dmg

[alltheseas]

https://damus.io/note1gcet9qd9mrltp3d7k7ctwrrgh0anqglx82wmgycdcdpyhylp7avs8ujs34

[alltheseas]

Negentropy by @jb55 should reduce data consumption

[alltheseas]

Related: disable image loading

#667

[alltheseas]

Bounty posted by Tetsu, Dan Wege: 100k sats

https://damus.io/note1uygs4fzg6dtrff326stk9thfec5meqx63f6v03qpv6axtsara7js2vwx24

[alltheseas]

@robagreda your design magic is requested, sir 👀

[alltheseas]

Bounty posted by Tetsu, Dan Wege: 100k sats

https://damus.io/note1uygs4fzg6dtrff326stk9thfec5meqx63f6v03qpv6axtsara7js2vwx24

225k sats

https://damus.io/note1aqg5qll3vu689j4568d22qgycysweanhhm7qcj9w9aaw9wrnyu8qwyg879

[alltheseas]

[alltheseas]

Maybe cuts your relays down, doesn't load follow numbers, doesn't load too many notes. You know just when you're out and about not in WiFi.

[alltheseas]

Consider Mutiny Booster relay / Bostr relay for potential data savings https://damus.io/note1myc2dk8ctzusv7hcgpjfyhp08k2uqt5sqg26f49f55qxzqfqqdlqv55l2w

[karnagebitcoin]

Put me down for 100k sats. Does this need design or Rob got it?

[alltheseas]

Put me down for 100k sats. Does this need design or Rob got it?

Thanks! I'll share updated bounty to nostr shortly.

I couldn't find low data mode in https://www.figma.com/file/ORaT1T0Ywfbm0sIjwy5Rgq/Damus-iOS?type=design&node-id=0-1&mode=design&t=dj8r4gylEAEIZUzv-0

@robagreda lmk if I missed it.

I think Rob is out of pocket currently if you want to have a go @karnagebitcoin

We would apply the low data mode design to Damus Android, as Android users have less bandwidth.

[robagreda]

Was planning to tackle all this in new year since I am still traveling so I have less availability for these tasks, didn't know it was a priority tho. You can check it out @karnagebitcoin :)

[alltheseas]

Was planning to tackle all this in new year since I am still traveling so I have less availability for these tasks, didn't know it was a priority tho. You can check it out @karnagebitcoin :)

We have quite a few things on iOS docket to implement. That said Android should be designed low data by default, and this I think will help inform the direction for devs before they get too far in implementation.

Thank you, and safe and fun travels and Merry Christmas @robagreda

[jb55]

We should have a way to measure how much data usage is coming from where. I think there may be lots of confusion as to what is using all the data. We can't fix what we can't measure.

[alltheseas]

We should have a way to measure how much data usage is coming from where. I think there may be lots of confusion as to what is using all the data. We can't fix what we can't measure.

#1838

[alltheseas]

Media uploads could be queued until Wi-Fi connection is detected.

[alltheseas]

Would be useful to understand media filter use impact on data

[alltheseas]

Tooltip from amazon video that provides data usage estimate, depending on settings.

[alltheseas]

Damus is hardly usable for me on a 3G simulator: 30 seconds to load some notes, notifications not loading one minute in

[jb55]

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 02:57:30AM -0800, alltheseas wrote: Damus is hardly usable for me on a 3G simulator: 30 seconds to load some notes, notifications not loading one minute in

I'm going to start using damus this way. This is a good idea.

[alltheseas]

Motivation:

damus-io/notedeck#195

[alltheseas]

Received feedback that onboarding to Damus (and other iOS app in Primal) on a poor mobile connection resulted in a failure to onboard to nostr.

Poor experience trying to onboard newbs to nostr during the conference (mostly on iOS which I do not use), around 10-12 people.

Granted the cell coverage was not great and not sure I remember everything that went wrong, but users were generally confused with loading/lacking data.

Create a profile, then I tried to follow them but could not find them from Amethyst. So scanned QR code, which is a non-obvious step. Then their profile showed just the npub but no info or pfp, some commented on that. Followed them but they didn't receive a notification for that on Damus, this confused most. And then what? Post a note? (I was recommending #introductions ).

While you wait for all this to load, tap, retry... between laughs you need to come up with conversation and try to somewhat defend nostr, tell them we're early and bugs will be fixed etc.

On Primal follows do appear but feeds don't load. And it autofollows a bunch of random people - some liked it some didn;t. They posted a note and I wanted to like/zap it but I could not see that note on my client either, even though I'm connected to major relays (could be nostr.wine's fault, but I tried with the zap.store account as well). I saw one guy KYC himself 3 times with the wallet because when he switched to his email client to get the code and the app kept resetting the screen.

Lucky that the majority of people were eager and did their best to try.

Since some of these were after Jordi's talk where he offered several clients to download, it was not always my choice/recommendation on which client to download - they just came with it.

I know we do our best but guys... it's bad.

This reminds me of getting a newb to open a LN channel and get liquidity. Painful. If we have to centralize more to better onramps, so be it.

https://damus.io/note1lp0y06zyzv7y3eukymw45qmk40pndvmw6mz9ynnt6lvurnfnftcsvsvwmc

[alltheseas]

@jb55 would #1897 help reduce bandwidth needs, and improve performance on a poor network?