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You're not wrong to be concerned. 12us is a decent chunk of time.
It looks like
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This might help with efficiency while also up with simplicity?
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Some time is spent just working with
sortedcontainers
.As a side note it seems
random.sample
won't take adict
or its views directly. So this includes coercing to alist
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SortedValuesView does say lookups are O(log(n)), but it seems like it's more than that.
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It takes any indexable, which
sortedcontainers.SortedDict.values
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For comparison:
So just to be clear that the random sample is the thing to try to avoid, not the
who_has
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So sampling the keys and then using them to look up values is 2x faster with SortedDict, and the same as what we'd get with a plain dict:
Also
random.choices
is 2x faster thanrandom.sample
(makes sense since it doesn't have to hold onto any state):I'd feel okay about
random.choices
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If we're okay with duplicates then we can go much faster.
Iterating values of a SortedDict is slow:
But it's fast on a plain dict:
So we just have to make sure we're passing in
self._workers_dv.values()
, notself._workers.values()
.This is decent:
But we can go much faster and avoid a copy with an iterator:
EDIT: The iterator method could return less than
k
items though. So particularly if there's one idle worker, that's not ideal. I feel likerandom.choices(list(pd.values()), k=10)
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It looks
random.sample
will taked.keys()
from playing around with it locally. So we can probably skip the coercion to alist
in that case. Though maybe we've already moved well beyond this at this pointI'd probably shy away from getting to clever around random item selection. It's probably more likely to have surprising behavior that we only discover later. Just my 2 cents 🙂
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I think we're beyond that, since we're only taking
dict_values
objects in this function now. Making it able to support both dicts and sets was a bit of a mess and not worth it IMO.I didn't go with the too-clever itertools option because it did have surprising behavior. I did have to add another conditional though because
choices
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Now that we have idle_workers in this function should this be
idle_workers or all_workers
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Interesting; yes it probably should be.
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Actually, now that I look at this again, maybe we do need the sleep.
If we're scheduling
inc
s then it's not unreasonable to schedule six of these things on one worker. That's where the data is. This computation is very cheap. But in contrast, the dependency is very small. We may need the scheduler to learn thatslowinc
is slow, and so heavy relative to theint
dependency.Maybe
This way we're confident that the computational cost of the future will far outweigh the communciation cost, but things are still fast-ish.
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Yeah, that's why I originally went with
sleep
. It also feels more like the case we're trying to test for. Though the test still passes with 6d91816 (and note that that test fails on main), so I'm not sure what we're thinking about wrong?There was a problem hiding this comment.
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Currently 28 bytes / 100MB/s is just still smaller than however fast inc ran in (a few microseconds probably). It would be safer to bump this up to milliseconds though.
gen_cluster tests can run in less than a second, but more than 100ms. So sleeps of around that 100ms time are more welcome than 1s sleeps.
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The test is passing as-is; do you still think I should change it back to
sleep
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It would become a problem if the
inc
ran in28 bytes / 100MB/s = 0.2us
or less. Inc does actually run this fast.But presumably the infrastructure around the inc is taking longer. If our timing infrsatructure got much faster then this might result in intermittent errors. It probably doesn't matter at this scale, but it's probably a good idea if it takes only a few minutes.
We might also introduce a penalty of something like 1ms for any communication (I'm surprised that we don't do this today actually) which might tip the scales in the future.
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I'll switch back to a short sleep for now.
That seems very worth doing.
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We maybe used to do this? It might be worth checking logs. The
worker_objective
function is pretty clean if you wanted to add this. We should probably wait until we find a case where it comes up though in an impactful way just to keep from cluttering things.There was a problem hiding this comment.
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Yeah I think it should be a separate PR for cleanliness