Remove long deprecated Navigator view

[akurtakov]

It has been deprecated years ago (see https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=549953 ) and deprecation period ended even for 2022-06. For 2023-03 I've cleaned whatever I found and will start removing it gradually for June release.

[trancexpress]

Who exactly is benefiting from this removal? There are committers who are burdened by maintaining the code?

[akurtakov]

We got to a state where any meaningful improvement to anything is hindered by the amount of legacy shipped . Here is just one example #500 (comment) . Having the code is not just maintaining it, it's navigating the codebase, making the mindmap of what/where/how/etc. and when for almost everything there is half a dozen different way to do it - good luck on improving anything (not just bug fixes) and no one even dares to think of any slightly bigger improvement.

[trancexpress]

-1 from me for this change, as usual do whatever.

[akurtakov]

Let's see what the majority vote would be.
For the record - such concerns should be raised when something is deprecated for removal not when it's actually being removed.

[mickaelistria]

-1 from me for this change

Can you please elaborate why? We need to collect data to ensure we take the best decision for the project continued success. So arguments in favor of keeping this view are still welcome (although they'd better have been expressed when deprecation was agreed upon).

[trancexpress]

Let's see what the majority vote would be. For the record - such concerns should be raised when something is deprecated for removal not when it's actually being removed.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=549953#c15

Can you please elaborate why? We need to collect data to ensure we take the best decision for the project continued success. So arguments in favor of keeping this view are still welcome (although they'd better have been expressed when deprecation was agreed upon).

Because I use the view.

[mickaelistria]

Thanks for linking to your comment on previous discussion; everything is done proper then if the comment was captured and discussed earlier.

Because I use the view.

Then you can copy the code to some plugin and offer it on Marketplace ;)

[iloveeclipse]

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=549953#c15

The contents of bin folders are shown for me in Project Explorer, if I uncheck "java output folders"

Beside this, I'm +-0 here.

[laeubi]

Another solution would be to to add missing features to the new view.

e.g. a rename file shortcut

I also very much like the EGit Shortcut "Open in System Explorer"

[vogella]

+1 for removal, I have never used it.

[vogella]

Thanks @akurtakov, now we allow have two slightly different implementations providing almost the same functionality, Project explorer and Package Explorer.

[jonahgraham]

I have sent an email to the PMC on this topic - the link should be https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse-pmc/msg04130.html once it is archived.

[Bananeweizen]

I also very much like the EGit Shortcut "Open in System Explorer"

Even though I contributed that one, it's still just a workaround. Much better is to install the EasyShell plugin, which will provide you with your personalized shell (e.g. cmd, powershell, Terminal, bash, ...). Highly recommended.

[mpalat]

-1 still for me - I still use this frequently while doing compiler development - refer https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=549953#c26 for conditions acceptable for me for the removal - essentially captured in https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=550385

[merks]

It seems the archiving of mailing lists is broken again with nothing for April:

https://www.eclipse.org/lists/eclipse-pmc/2023/

I opened this issue:

https://gitlab.eclipse.org/eclipsefdn/helpdesk/-/issues/2903