Standard WG Meeting - July 28th, 2022

[kriswest]

Date

Thursday 28th July 2022 - 10am EST / 3pm BST

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Agenda

• Convene & roll call, review meeting notices (5mins)
• Review action items from previous meeting (5mins)
  • Standard WG Meeting - June 23rd, 2022 #757
• Maintainers update (5 mins)
  • FDC3 2.0 release progress and timeline
    • https://github.com/finos/FDC3/milestones
    • 484 compliance info #753
  • Adoption of Community Specification License
    • (WIP) 412 Community spec license adoption #775
  • FDC3 Workbench update plans
    • FDC3 workbench: add support for app channels #785
    • FDC3 Workbench: Fix minor issues and improve design #786
    • FDC3 Workbench: Create a separate version of Workbench for FDC3 2.0 #787
    • FDC3 Workbench: Add Support for FDC3 2.0 features #788
  • FDC3 Conformance Framework
    FDC3 Software Conformance Framework #583
• Discussion groups update (10 mins)
  • Desktop Agent Bridging
    • [WIP] 544 desktop agent bridging proposal #634
  • Context & Intents
    • 'ChatRoom' and 'SendChatMessage' #765
    • Chat Message Container #766
    • 'View Chat' intent #767
    • 'View Messages' intent #768
    • Intent Proposal: Create Interaction #592
    • Context Proposal: TransactionResult #771
    • Context Proposal: Order #644
    • Standardize a context representing a Trade #655
    • Improve the definition of the Position context type #656
    • Provide Notification API's #387
    • Release Frequency
  • AppD discussion group (some outstanding issues from App Directory Discussion group - Monday 16th May 2022 #718)
• FDC3 2.1 scope discussion (30 mins)
  • Open issues:
    • Project infrastructure
      • Proposal for the FDC3 project to adopt the new FINOS Standards Governance model (including the Community Specification License) #412
      • Update FDC3 master branch to main #579
      • Update microsite to docusaurus v2 #762
      • Ensure types are generated when new contexts are merged into master branch #749
    • AppD issues:
      • The AppIntent interface incorrectly describes an intent #312
      • Provide better documentation and examples for AppD auth support #559
      • Create an AppD reference implementation #563
      • Add vendor agnostic default window size and position settings to the App Directory app definition format #564
      • Allow an AppD application record to reference other apps that are *required* for it to run #674
      • Add /intents and /contexts endpoints to the AppD API #719
    • API issues:
      • Reset context  #301
      • Allow Desktop Agent To Join Multiple Channels #242
      • Introduce a new fdc3.applications() method #311
      • Add save and restore state API calls - so FDC3 apps can fully participate in save and restore layout #386
      • Provide Notification API's #387
      • Upgrade exposure of originating app identity to a requirement (MUST) from recommended (SHOULD) #735
    • Context & Intents issues
      • See discussion group update above
    • Proposal For Identity Discussion Group / Work Stream #684
• AOB & Adjourn (5mins)

Minutes

• Discussion groups:
  • AppD: There was no consensus that the appD discussion group should be revived to deal with the remaining issues, hence these will be dealt with through SWG meetings.
  • Desktop Agent bridging: the group is closing in on a first complete draft which may be ready to share at one of the next couple of SWG meetings
  • The Context & Intents group remains active and will continue to manage its own scope and bring back a batch or batches of issues for inclusion in the next FDC3 draft.
    • The group is still seeking a way to release its work faster (than the typical cadence for FDC3 releases, which is about once a year) - API changes etc. are not needed for new Contexts & Intents to go into use.
      • FDC3 maintainers to discuss options for a solution:
        • Introduce a third tier to version numbers for Context & Intents releases and do them quarterly?
        • Release an updated NPM module on merges to trunk (version: "next")
        • Separate versioning on Intents and Contexts from the API standards (Desktop Agent and AppD).
• FDC3 2.1 scope discussion
  • Context & Intents issues to stay with that group until ready
  • Desktop Agent Bridging issues to stay with that group until ready
  • Project infrastructure issues to be handled by maintainers - volunteers to assist most welcome!
  • All other open issues were briefly reviewed - most warrant further discussion.
  • Rough ordering by interest expressed in discussion by meeting participants:
    • Add /intents and /contexts endpoints to the AppD API #719
    • Provide Notification API's #387
      • @kriswest believes this could be dealt with through Intents & Contexts + FDC3 2.0's ability to return results from intents and suggested that brief PoC is sketched out for discussion at a future meeting.
    • The AppIntent interface incorrectly describes an intent #312
    • Allow an AppD application record to reference other apps that are *required* for it to run #674
    • Allow Desktop Agent To Join Multiple Channels #242
    • Reset context  #301
    • Provide better documentation and examples for AppD auth support #559
    • Create an AppD reference implementation #563
    • Upgrade exposure of originating app identity to a requirement (MUST) from recommended (SHOULD) #735
    • Add save and restore state API calls - so FDC3 apps can fully participate in save and restore layout #386
    • Introduce a new fdc3.applications() method #311
    • Add vendor agnostic default window size and position settings to the App Directory app definition format #564
  • The end of the meeting curtailed discussion before we reached:
    • Proposal For Identity Discussion Group / Work Stream #684
• All were invited to raise new issues for issues they would like to see discussed and/or addressed in a future FDC3 version.

Action Items

• @hampshan Review appD 2.0 record properties and raise an issue to add a link to an app's help documentation (if the moreInfo link is not sufficient). This might be used, for example, to add a help link to window chrome in a desktop agent.
• @kriswest Plan agendas for future SWG meetings
  • base the plan on a queue of issues that we can maintain, ordered using the input given at this meeting
• @robmoffat further the discussion of Proposal For Identity Discussion Group / Work Stream #684 outside of SWG meetings - then request adding to an agenda when ready.

Untracked attendees

Full name	Affiliation	GitHub username

[bingenito]

Brian Ingenito / Morgan Stanley
👋

[milindchidrawar]

Milind Chidrawar / Singletrack

[Julia-Ritter]

Julia / FINOS

[pierreneu]

Pierre Neu / Symphony

[jgavronsky]

Jane / FINOS

[mistryvinay]

Vinay / Symphony

[ggeorgievx]

Georgi / Tick42

[kriswest]

Kris / Cosaic

[hampshan]

Andrew Hampshire @ UBS

[Qiana-Citi]

Qiana / Citi

[tpina]

Tiago Pina / Cosaic

[hughtroeger]

Hugh Troeger / FactSet

[rikoe]

Riko Eksteen / Adaptive

[kriswest]

Minutes for yesterday's meeting have now been posted.

Please do raise issues or (github) discussions for anything you'd like to see discussed at future meetings!

[Qiana-Citi]

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