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Remove NilpotentQuotient for fp-groups #10

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Under normal circumstances, these are never triggered, and a normal user has
no good way to ever use them.

On the other hand, a pro user can easily get the same effect by replicating
what these methods do.

So all in all, there seems to be no point in having these methods.

In practice, though, due to a fundamental issue with GAP method ranking, it
can happen that lpres' NilpotentQuotient methods for fp-groups actually do
end up being ranked higher than the methods from nq, and I'd argue this is
undesirable in general. For details, see
gap-system/gap#2513

Under normal circumstances, these are never triggered, and a normal user has
no good way to ever use them.

On the other hand, a pro user can easily get the same effect by replicating
what these methods do.

So all in all, there seems to be no point in having these methods.

In practice, though, due to a fundamental issue with GAP method ranking, it
can happen that lpres' NilpotentQuotient methods for fp-groups actually *do*
end up being ranked higher than the methods from nq, and I'd argue this is
undesirable in general. For details, see
<gap-system/gap#2513>
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Merging #10 into master will increase coverage by 0.02%.
The diff coverage is n/a.

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I agree -- it can't be performance-savvy to convert an Fp group to an Lp one.

OTOH, I think that the NilpotentQuotient method outside Lpres can be improved; I'll try to remember which issues there were.

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If there are ways to improve it, by all means submit issues or pull requests to the nq package -- though perhaps this PR can be merged in the meantime anyway?

@laurentbartholdi laurentbartholdi merged commit 6acb531 into gap-packages:master Jun 14, 2018
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