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+title: ICAT Collaboration Meeting 27th June 2024
+date: 2024-06-27
+chair: Andy
+scribe: Louise
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+
+## Attendance
+Attendees:
+ - Andy Gotz
+ - Louise Davies
+ - Kirsty Syder
+ - Kevin Phipps
+ - Malik Almohammad
+ - Santhosh Anandarama
+ - Viktor Bozhinov
+ - Alex de Maria
+ - Alan Kyffin
+
+
+## Agenda
+
+### SciCatCon
+
+Kevin: is anyone else attending? Alex?
+Alex: was interested, but didn't hear anything since initial email
+
+Andy: should be able to attend remotely?
+Louise: yes, there's a remote attendance option on the indico
+
+Andy: Parameters: Does SciCAT have nested?
+Louise: yes, think so. However, they mentioned having trouble with theirs - hard to assert/search parameters when they're so flexible.
+
+### repo.icatproject.org
+
+Andy: is this fixed
+STFC: yes, apologies this was broken by migrating VMs to upgrade the OS. External network  configuration was broken but it worked internally.
+
+### NOBUGS
+
+Need to create an indico page to get numbers of attendance so room can be organised.
+
+STFC will send a couple of people.
+
+Andy: Register ASAP: only 160 seats & already 120 potentially filled by speakers
+Kevin: when does registration open?
+Andy: open now https://indico.esrf.fr/event/114/registrations/
+
+Can just register just for satellite(s) or the main conference as well.
+
+Multiple talks from ICAT people at main conference (5) : https://indico.esrf.fr/event/114/search?q=icat
+
+## Site Updates
+
+### SESAME
+
+No big updates.
+
+Finished cybersecurity assessment. After, addressed weakness points - especially glassfish. Will share report at next meeting most likely.
+
+Still only accessible on internal network
+
+Plan to start using DataPortal with the public next week.
+
+Andy: how many other sites using glassfish?
+Rest mostly using Payara
+Alan: shouldn't really make a difference
+
+Main problem is all services running in same environment. Separate DataPortal onto separate VM is likely safer.
+
+WAF (Web applicaiton firewall) - ESRF looking into implementing 
+
+### ESRF
+
+Processed data - 10 beamlines using. High demand for this, initially macromolecular crystollography, but expanding to more techniques. Happy with performance - going smoothly and faster than ispyb.
+
+Collaborate with DESY for crystallography. Going to go over and help them set it all up including ICAT. Thinking about packaging to make this easier.
+
+Andy: should get extra money for that, maybe EOSC?
+
+Andy: feedback from scientists re: electronic logbooks. Difficult as they compare with google docs! (high bar)
+
+Malik: Would be interested in Alex' collaboration - they have tomography beamlines.
+
+### ISIS
+
+Santhosh: user office integration is complete - in testing.
+Andy: is this a new user office software?
+Santhosh: no, migration from SOAP to REST
+Andy: thought new user office - thought they were interested in using ESS UO.
+Louise & Kevin: Proposals system has been migrated and is using ESS solution.
+
+Andy: chatbots integrated with Data portals - Elettra already have good feedback on their chatbot.
+Alex: user wants to browse data via chatting. LLM solution (Mistral) is quite promising. Integration with logbook - can ask what happened e.g. overnight
+One issue is authorization
+
+### DLS
+
+Had demo of the DOI functionality from Louise & Patrick. Slowly working through approval from executive and legal. Has some agreement on only raw data
+
+Also, Rocky 9 upgrades.
+
+Andy: NOBUGS2024 poster on legal issues from DLS
+Kirsty: yes, someone using LLMs/ChatGPT to analyse abstracts. Interested to see the poster...
+
+
+## Component Updates
+
+### icat.server
+
+Reverted a change which caused incompatability between new ICAT snapshot and python-icat
+
+
+## AOB
+
+### download statistics
+
+DAPHNE: DOI landing page download statistics
+Louise: could do basics with google analytics - we have basic page tracking
+Alan: we use 3rd party service for some of our other services
+
+Kevin: we have an admin download page in DG to track what the current retrieval status
+
+Kevin: we do have an apprentice working on an ICAT dashboard project
+We did have old dashboard, but stopped working on it - were some GDPR concerns
+
+### DOI stuff
+
+Andy: Data Portal shows users emails e.g. on summary page
+Louise: we don't - don't want to get into that can of worms!
+Andy: meeting at ESRF to discuss it
+
+Andy: datacite API - old one (schema 3) depcrecated, must move to schema 4 before end of the year
+Louise/Kevin: new API DLS mentioned is using new one, some legacy services using old one
+
+### IDS
+
+Alex: difference between data volume between DB filesize and filesize on disk. If different then download could fail. We now check both DB filesize and disk size. We've fixed it.
+
+Andy: tar vs zip - users had requested to use tar.
+Kevin: Should be able to use tar - as either config option or api param perhaps 
+Also, zip compression option doesn't work - DLS user pointed this out for us