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title: ICAT Collaboration Meeting - 28th September 2023 | ||
date: 2023-09-28 | ||
chair: Andy | ||
scribe: Patrick | ||
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## Attendance | ||
Attendees: | ||
- Patrick | ||
- Andy | ||
- Rolf | ||
- Louise | ||
- Viktor | ||
- Kirsty | ||
- Alan | ||
- Alex | ||
- Allan | ||
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Apologies: | ||
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## Site Updates | ||
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### ESRF: | ||
- Working on the MX use cases | ||
- Deployed for some months, with ongoing testing | ||
- Contact friendly users next week | ||
- In a better position that ispyb | ||
- Room for improvement, possibility to add features beyond ispyb | ||
- Rolf: Our MX group does not have ispyb, plans to use it, would be nice to use the ESRF methods out of the box | ||
- Private meeting to discuss? Will need to contact the group | ||
- ispyb meeting at the end of November | ||
- Performance was a worry but actually is not bad | ||
- Issues with downloading files of ~2GB via HTTP? | ||
- DLS have had people attempting ~TB, but expect these to fail | ||
- Rolf has had issues, but it was the clientside network (i.e. failed at home, succeeded at office) | ||
- Alex also has these difficulties from home | ||
- ESRF IT thinks it could be IDS config - could be a limit? | ||
- Louise to test on an ISIS file as that's 1 level storage | ||
- ESRF have GLOBUS, but majority of open data is not visible on GLOBUS via file permissions so is not suitable | ||
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### HZB: | ||
- ICAT still offline, unknown when it will come up | ||
- Internal Gitlab is back online | ||
- Lots of upcoming project meetings | ||
- ICAT components pending release will probably not be until November | ||
- DLS using ICAT6 but are and can continue to use SNAPSHOTs | ||
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### ALBA: | ||
No attendees | ||
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### Sirius: | ||
- Tried data ingest | ||
- Sample tracking meeting: perhaps try another week | ||
- Want ESRF to participate but Alex isn't available, clashes with ICALEPCS | ||
- Going to send another poll | ||
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### ISIS: | ||
No news | ||
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### DLS: | ||
Still concerns about performance in the DB from Payara6 change | ||
- Request duplication fix in DG | ||
- Update Oracle drivers to auto | ||
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## Component Updates | ||
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### icat.server | ||
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### ids.server | ||
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### authn.oidc & icat.oaipmh | ||
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### DataGateway | ||
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### icat-doi-api | ||
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### DataHub | ||
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## ICALEPCS Paper | ||
No contact from ALBA, SESAME - will have to remove them from authorship if they can't be reached | ||
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Deadline Monday evening? | ||
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### Architecture: | ||
- Need to address comments from Rolf: Patrick | ||
- Need to update final diagram: Patrick | ||
- Check for missing citatons: Patrick | ||
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### Frontends: | ||
- DataGateway content needed: Louise | ||
- DataHub content needed: Alex | ||
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### Extensions/APIs: | ||
- datagateway/common search api - add reference to this section (non accademic is fine, we can use the webpage): Viktor | ||
- Python icat: Rolf | ||
- ICAT+: Alex? | ||
- ICAT OAIPMH: Rolf | ||
- Sample tracking: Alex | ||
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### Science use cases: | ||
- Cryo-EM needs content: Alex | ||
- MX needs content (50-100 parameters should be focus of use case): Alex | ||
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### Sites: | ||
- ISIS needs content: Louise | ||
- ESRF needs figures: Andy | ||
- HZB needs content: Rolf | ||
- ALBA: ? | ||
- SESAME: ? | ||
- SIRIUS: Allan | ||
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### Collaboration: | ||
- indico site from previous workshop: ROlf | ||
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### Next steps: | ||
- Expand on containerisation: Rolf? | ||
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### Conclusion | ||
- Needs expanding | ||
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## AOB | ||
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### E-logbooks meeting | ||
- Meeting went well, but need to define next steps soon | ||
- General idea is that the e-logbook will be treated as another ICAT component (in time) | ||
- MongDB has a problematic license... Rolf suspects the e-logbook use case is not compliant with the license | ||
- Derived from GPL, but if you derive from MongoDB you have to use their license | ||
- CoachDB as an alternative | ||
- Consensus seems to be that this is not apply to us as we will not be offering MongoDB functionality, we are just using it as a DB which is allowed | ||
- Test of model federation in DataGateway: | ||
- Could do this | ||
- Not planning on anytime soon | ||
- Would be nice to know if different versions of React can work together in practice | ||
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### Other meetings | ||
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### Next Collaboration Meeting | ||
Clashes with International Data Week |