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MARACOOS ROMS ESPreSSO #31
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The old NGDC catalog system harvested much of the metadata themselves and used a stand-alone crawler that worked on THREDDS servers without ISO enabled. The new IOOS catalog relies on the regions to populate folders of metadata, and perhaps MARACOOS is using a crawler that expects the ISO services to be enabled. I just noticed that the catalog @johnwilkin specified does not have the THREDDS ISO metadata services enabled. For example: Luckily this is a simple fix. We just ask @rjdave to add an extra line to the relevant catalogs and restart thredds!
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ISO is now enabled on the Espresso Real-Time v2 datasets. |
@rjdave, nice! Thanks! @mwengren and @lukecampbell , I searched https://registry.ioos.us/harvests for MARACOOS and found that the catalog is harvesting these two WAFS: Hopefully the scripts that are populating If not, here's a script that uses Axiom's Docker
where
This should produce two ISO records in the subdirectory
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Still getting nothing here: https://data.ioos.us/dataset?q=espresso |
I don't know what happened, but we now have espresso ☕ ! |
I think the MARCOOS WAF scripts were having some issues recently (last couple weeks), but probably the TDS changes combined with the WAF process being fixed caused those forecasts to be added. I looked at the Catalog harvest logs and a couple new datasets were added on the 20th. |
I'm reopening this issue because I just noticed that the catalog currently contains two Espresso datasets appear to be identical: the history files from the 2013-present aggregation: So we appear to have only 1 dataset being discovered twice instead of the 4 datasets we should have. I gchatted with @rjdave and he has now enabled ISO services for the pre 2013 datasets in this catalog So with the dockerized thredds_iso_crawler, called here in a bash script I'm calling
and invoked thusly:
where
I now get 4 records!
Woohoo! Can whoever is responsible for the MACOORA WAF please enable? |
@rsignell-usgs the two records referenced are actually slightly different
Now that the 2009-2013 dataset has had ISO support enabled, we added
We also added:
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@kknee , I would argue against providing the 2D time aggregations -- they are not CF-compliant and the WMS services don't work properly. The 1D "Best" from the FRMC aggregation is all that most users expect to see. These are CF-Compliant and match the structure of |
I would also recommend against providing the 2D time aggregations. Both for the reasons @rsignell-usgs mentioned and the fact that we don't feel users should rely on the accuracy or validity of the first 24 hours (hindcast) of each run. The first 24 hours of hindcast is more of a spin-up phase, which is why we don't include them in our "Best" aggregation. |
@brianmckenna will update the waf today |
@kknee and @brianmckenna, thanks! |
Dave Robertson is absolutely correct about the other aggregations. We want to serve only what we have deemed to be the "best" time time series.
If users anonymous to us were to access anything else they would not know what they were getting and could neither make good use of it or comment knowledgeably on it. Nothing good can come of that.
Thank you all,
John.
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I would also recommend against providing the 2D time aggregations. Both for the reasons @rsignell-usgs<https://github.com/rsignell-usgs> mentioned and the fact that we don't feel users should rely on the accuracy or validity of the first 24 hours (hindcast) of each run. The first 24 hours of hindcast is more of a spin-up phase, which is why we don't include them in our "Best" aggregation.
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I now see 6 entries for espresso in the IOOS catalog: https://data.ioos.us/dataset?q=espresso The 2009-2013 averages and history datasets are now there, but unfortunately the title for both is simply "espresso". @rjdave, can you please modify the titles for these in your catalog NcML to be more similar to the 2013-present datasets, for example, something like: |
@kknee and @brianmckenna, the Rutgers Espresso model forecast ISO metadata from Can you please fix? We discoverd this because @rjdave updated their THREDDS catalog at 1200 EDT yesterday to improve the titles for the 2009-2013 espresso data, and you can see them in the ISO records here: but the new titles have not shown up in the IOOS catalog yet |
The Espresso forecast datasets on http://tds.maracoos.org/iso/ are still stuck on the 27th: @kknee and @brianmckenna, these need to be updated daily! |
@rsignell-usgs the bottom two are not static documents and don't need to be updated daily. They are pure HTML anchors that link to the thredds service endpoints directly. |
2009 datasets are no longer updating, so are assumed static. 2013 updates continuously, please check the content of the ISO. which both reflect the TDS extents. If you are seeing otherwise, please let me know. If the HTML is being parsed instead of the ISO, please let me know that as well and I'll see what can be done. Note: IOOS catalog last updated ~13 hours ago, so both still reflect yesterday's extents. |
@brianmckenna & @lukecampbell , ah, okay, my bad seeing those file dates for the 2013 data and assuming they were not updating. Could you please link the 2009 data to the actual ISO records (shown below) as well so that changes made to the metadata in there will appear? (we made some changes to the title and summary, for example) |
I'm looking on https://data.ioos.us for the MARACOOS Rutgers ROMS ocean forecast (ESPreSSO) that was previously on the NGDC geoportal. Maybe I'm not searching effectively, but I believe we should be there somewhere. The end points at http://tds.marine.rutgers.edu/thredds/roms/espresso/2013_da/catalog.html have not moved in a while.
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