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MSC2181: Add an Error Code for Signaling a Deactivated User #2181
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# Add an Error Code for Signaling a Deactivated User | ||
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Currently, when a user attempts to log in, they will receive an `M_FORBIDDEN` | ||
errcode if their password is incorrect. However, if the user's account is | ||
deactivated, they will also receive an `M_FORBIDDEN`, leaving clients in a | ||
state where they are unable to inform the user that the reason they cannot | ||
log in is that their account has been deactivated. This leads to confusion | ||
and password resetting with ultimately results in unnecessary support | ||
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requests. | ||
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## Proposal | ||
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This proposal asks to create a new errcode, `M_USER_DEACTIVATED`, that can be | ||
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returned whenever an action is attempted that requires an activited user, but | ||
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the authenticating user is deactivated. The HTTP code to return alongside is | ||
`403`. | ||
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## Tradeoffs | ||
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The alternative is to continue returning an `M_FORBIDDEN`, but send back a | ||
different errmsg. This is undesirable as clients are supposed to treat the | ||
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message as an opaque string, and should not be performing any | ||
pattern-matching on it. | ||
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## Potential issues | ||
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None | ||
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## Security considerations | ||
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While the existence of a user was already public knowledge (one can check if | ||
the User ID is available through | ||
[/_matrix/client/r0/register/available](https://matrix.org/docs/spec/client_server/r0.5.0#get-matrix-client-r0-register-available), | ||
this proposal would allow any user to be able to detect if a registered | ||
account has been deactivated. | ||
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## Conclusion | ||
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Adding `M_USER_DEACTIVATED` would better inform clients about the state of a | ||
user's account, and lead to less confusion when they cannot log in. |
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Question: What do homeservers do if the user is deactivated and somebody tries to log in with an incorrect password? Is the homeserver expected to retain the password forever? If the password is not retained, should all attempts to login as a deactivated user return the deactivated error (which may have some privacy implications?).
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It should still return
M_USER_DEACTIVATED
. Password hashes are wiped (at least in Synapse) upon user deactivation.Privacy implications are here whether password hashes are retained or not, no?
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The problem with shifting it so that you need to login to see if you're deactivated, is that we already have tons of deactivated users whose password hashes have been cleared.
Also worth noting reddit's APIs allow you to tell if any user has been shadowbanned, something that ideally even the user wouldn't know, and that doesn't seem to have caused their service any harm. https://nullprogram.com/am-i-shadowbanned/
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... also by nature of being deactivated you shouldn't be allowed back in. Why would we let people get that far into the process without telling them to go away? I think the proposed approach is fine