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usc-022.id5d4d1ccb-f599-11ee-babc-9b453f011230_2_0.cgel #131

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@bwaldon bwaldon commented Feb 16, 2025

todo: lemma and xpos

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bwaldon commented Feb 17, 2025

Treating PP "as payment..." as :Comp to "considered" (with "payment" as :PredComp), following analysis of VP "identifying the holder thereof..." in usc-006

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:Mod (Clause
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:Head (V :t "made" :l "make" :xpos "VBN")
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Mod?

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Oh yes, should definitely be Mod -- thanks for catching this

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:Head (D :t "this"))
:Head (Nom
:Head (N :t "subsection")))))))
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Attach within VP?

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I think that works. I was thinking that the "for"-PP is licensed by "payments"

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I guess either interpretation works

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If it attaches within VP: is it :Mod?

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The active form would be "made payments for a policy", which uses a light verb construction. So...I don't know. It does seem like the notion of paying licenses a for-PP. To take another light verb construction, what would be the structure of "made a decision about the schedule"?

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It could just be that I'm having trouble thinking of a context where you'd want to say [ii]:

"The payment for phone service which John made was late; the payment for phone service which Linda made was on-time."

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The path of least resistance here is probably to follow CGEL: "such post-nominal elements are complements of the light verb."

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Discussion with @nschneid : either attachment sites are plausible here. Maybe we'd prefer the light-verb complementation analysis were it not to result in gaps. But in this case, it results in a gap, and we want to minimize gaps, so that consideration motivates the noun complementation analysis.

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Treating PP "as payment..." as :Comp to "considered" (with "payment" as :PredComp), following analysis of VP "identifying the holder thereof..." in usc-006

I don't see any as-PP example in the guidelines. But I see some examples in CGELBank that are consistent: "take as a given", "describe as", "known as".

Does this call for https://github.com/nert-nlp/cgel/blob/ed77639f052f2204359239daec9f128990467fda/datasets/ewt.cgel#L1652 to be revised (Obj -> PredComp)?

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bwaldon commented Feb 18, 2025

Treating PP "as payment..." as :Comp to "considered" (with "payment" as :PredComp), following analysis of VP "identifying the holder thereof..." in usc-006

I don't see any as-PP example in the guidelines. But I see some examples in CGELBank that are consistent: "take as a given", "describe as", "known as".

Does this call for https://github.com/nert-nlp/cgel/blob/ed77639f052f2204359239daec9f128990467fda/datasets/ewt.cgel#L1652 to be revised (Obj -> PredComp)?

I'm not sure. From CGEL p. 255:

Screenshot 2025-02-17 at 10 37 36 PM

This suggests that the "as..." PPs themselves should be :PredComp. We don't have a specialized 'predicative oblique' function for the complement of "as" but maybe the function is :Obj when the complement is NP (and :Comp otherwise).

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SIEG2 p. 194:

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This may be a slight revision in terminology from the passage you quoted.

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bwaldon commented Feb 18, 2025

Oh interesting. I like the analysis suggested by the SIEG2 passage (and it's consistent with what we've been doing), but I think that it does maybe call for a revision to https://github.com/nert-nlp/cgel/blob/ed77639f052f2204359239daec9f128990467fda/datasets/ewt.cgel#L1652

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Proposed documentation: nert-nlp/cgel#150

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