Empty answers in date polls

[RubenHoms]

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
I really like the new design of the app, kudos on the work you guys are doing on it. 👍 My problem is with how the 'unfilled' answers work in polls. I mostly use the poll app for picking dates with friends, and we've had no issue with it up until the new design. The problem is that the 'unfilled' option (black cross on grey background) looks almost exactly like the 'no' option, confusing the user.

Here's what I mean:

Did the users just forget to fill in the option, or did they mean their unfilled option as 'no'? This makes things very unclear.

Describe the solution you'd like
I think in a datepicker poll giving an answer has to be mandatory, not optional. In real life you would never answer the question of "Can you do this day and time?" with a blank stare and no answer as this would leave the person asking the question doubting. The poll app makes sure you can pick a date with certainty, and the changes to the UI make me uncertain and having to ask my friends 'did you mean no or did you just forget to fill in those days?'.

Having the poll tell you 'oops, seems you've forgotten to fill in this date over here' would be much better than just leaving it as a null value in my opinion.

[dartcafe]

And a new discussion about the disply of unvoted options. 😀 You see me a little bit smiling....
Some discussions about how to handle unvoted options: #581, #332, #564, #420, #537, #232, ...

Don't get me wrong, I am not upset. I knew, that this would happen...

I agree, that too many symbols are confusing and may give some useless information. And IMHO the only relevant information is if a user opts in to an option or not regardless if he voted no or did not vote. For me as the organizer only the yes votes are relevant. If the user does not say yes, it's a no. Personally I do not even like the maybe option.

In the end I would prefer this view (the Doodle way):

Comparing the current view:

I invitate everyone, to take part in this (final?) discussion.

[v1r0x]

I think this will not be the final discussion 😅
I'm a big fan of the maybe option, so we should at least keep three options (yes, maybe, no) and make maybe optional (as it is right now).
Regarding the difference between no and "not answered" (black x) I have currently no opinion. I'm fine with the current solution, but I'm also fine with treating them as no.

But we should make a decision and pin a issue with our solution and our motivation/reason.

[dartcafe]

I think this will not be the final discussion 😅

For sure. ;-)

so we should at least keep three options (yes, maybe, no)

Ahh, I didn't want to change that. Too much votes for that. This is just my personal opinion in general.

Regarding the difference between no and "not answered" (black x) I have currently no opinion.

I am fine with any solution, if the users get the information they expect, without thinking about this to long, although I find the current solution a little bit restless.

One thing in Andon is, that the relevant and important information is carried recognisable, fast and unmistakably. This means, that uneccessary Informations are to omit.

I as an poll organizer want to know, who votes for something.

In the end I agree with @RubenHoms and @jancborchardt #420 (comment). The doodle way is a learned and accepted way.

[herrmannsdorfer]

+1 for the Doodle way. Well-known and clearly represented. In the current view the non-voters are outstanding although you were looking for a common YES.

BTW: I am missing the "toggle all" option ...

[v1r0x]

To do it the doodle way we simply have to replace the black x and gray background with white background or anything else to do?

[RubenHoms]

Oh dear I should've searched through the issues before posting this, my apologies for sparking up this debate again. 😅

But since we're here now anyway, I agree with @dartcafe his view of making it 'the Doodle way'. This would solve the confusion for me as organiser ('did someone forget to fill in this date?') and would make it clear for the participants that they vote no if they don't change their answer. I don't see how doing it that way can cause any ambiguity.

[dartcafe]

To do it the doodle way we simply have to replace the black x and gray background with white background or anything else to do?

It's just CSS. Was done within 5 min. ;-)

[RubenHoms]

Thanks a lot for the solution @dartcafe, much appreciated ❤️

[stefan123t]

Dear @dartcafe.
sorry to flare up this closed thread.

Just looking for removing an answer from a participants choices again. That is when the two top-right "empty-choices" in the above pictures caught my attention.

Especially I like the distinction between intentionally left blank, i.e. black square with black checkmark in your old icon set or red empty square in the doodle-way notion and the simply left blank / made no choice black checkmark or empty field in the doodle notation.

I was not aware that this is possible at all in Polls app, hence I voted for adding the empty choice in #920. Having a distinction between the two is much appreciated too.

Kind regards,
Stefan

[dartcafe]

As we discussed this in a lot of threads, we will leave it as it is.
From a viewers point you see yes, maybe or no. From a voters view you see aditionally, if you did not answer to an option. No answer counts as no.