Grid view: Confusing UX when you stop following someone (speaker view applies, and that's a problem)

[Jerome-Herbinet]

There are 2 views: “gallery view” and “speaker view”.
In “gallery view”, if I decide to follow someone, his avatar, initials or webcam are displayed full screen (In this case, I only follow the specific user I decided to follow). Then, if I stop following him, the speaker view is applied (*), whereas I was expecting to return to the gallery view (where I was previously).

(*) very uncomfortable when several people are chatting together ... the speaker screen changes every second ... so I absolutely don't want to end up in the speaker view, unless I want to (for example, in a webinar where all participants except the speaker are muted).

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[Antreesy]

From code it is expected to restore Grid state, unless participant stripe was opened (which basically make it Speaker view, but with manually selected participant to follow):

spreed/src/stores/callView.js

Lines 116 to 119 in 6bf5c09

	if (!this.isGrid && !this.isStripeOpen) {
	// User didn't pick grid view during presentation, restore previous state
	this.setCallViewMode({ token, isGrid: this.lastIsGrid, isStripeOpen: this.lastIsStripeOpen, clearLast: false })
	}

Not sure if it would be expected to move back to Grid view from that (see screen capture below):

Back to Grid View	Stay on Speaker view

[Jerome-Herbinet]

From code it is expected to restore Grid state, unless participant stripe was opened (which basically make it Speaker view, but with manually selected participant to follow):

Thanks for the explanation @Antreesy 🙂

In the end, what the code says is of relatively little importance to me, because, if someone as experienced as me can't intuitively understand this UI mechanism (or find a useful logic for it), it's a lack of intuitiveness in the operation of this part of the interface.

I would never have thought in this case that there is a difference in behavior depending on the tab opened in the right side panel.

It is necessary to be simple and rational.

If before, I was in gallery mode, there is no reason for me to end up in speaker mode after stopping following someone.

Thanks for reading me

Cc @nickvergessen

[Antreesy]

depending on the tab opened in the right side panel

It is not about the right sidebar at all.

Second screencast is showing, that described behaviour could be reproduced with opening the participants stripe which are small videos on the bottom. That matches the appearance of Speaker view.

Could you reproduce behaviour from both provided screencasts?

Sorry for being straight-forward here, just wanted to make sure we're on the same page before changing something in the code

[nickvergessen]

PS I generally agree that the view/follow handling is not straight forward and easily understandable, neither code wise nor UX-wise. But I also don't know when we will have time to focus it again.