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| # Node.js Technical Steering Committee (TSC) Meeting 2024-01-10 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| * **Recording**: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8dtXhOPDO0> | ||
| * **GitHub Issue**: <https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1489> | ||
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| ## Present | ||
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| * Yagiz Nizipli @anonrig (voting member) | ||
| * Geoffrey Booth @GeoffreyBooth (voting member) | ||
| * Joyee Cheung @joyeecheung (voting member) | ||
| * Chengzhong Wu @legendecas (voting member) | ||
| * Matteo Collina @mcollina (voting member) | ||
| * Michael Dawson @mhdawson (voting member) | ||
| * Moshe Atlow @MoLow (voting member) | ||
| * Richard Lau @richardlau (voting member) | ||
| * Robert Nagy @ronag (voting member) | ||
| * Ruy Adorno @ruyadorno (voting member) | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| ### Announcements | ||
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| * Richard, Ulises did a release for Node.js 20 | ||
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| ### CPC and Board Meeting Updates | ||
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| *Extracted from **tsc-agenda** labeled issues and pull requests from the **nodejs org** prior to the meeting. | ||
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| * Travel fund is most relevant discussion. Board has asked that the rules for the fund be | ||
| revamped. Things are progressing fast as we want to have them in place. | ||
| * Still waiting on news on the room for collaborator summit in London | ||
| * Track for Node.js is still in play, conference has room for the track | ||
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| ### nodejs/node | ||
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| * Revisiting `globalThis` as an `EventTarget` [#51372](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/51372) | ||
| * No clear conclusion in the discussion yet. On agenda because the TSC will need to make a | ||
| Decision at some point. Not yet at that point but will likely end up in a vote. It is SemVer | ||
| major PR so will need to make decision by Feb ish. | ||
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| * Inconsistent behavior of nextTick and queueMicrotask [#51156](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/51156) | ||
| * Robert - Have not had too much time to pursue, but have opened a few PRs which are | ||
| progressing | ||
| * Second one is to add as experimental, Matteo what did you see with breakage | ||
| * Matteo, from what I saw breakage was extensive | ||
| * Robert the only way forward is to add another new API, deprecate next tick to discourage | ||
| future use. | ||
| * Can remove from agenda at this point. | ||
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| * enable corepack by default [#50963](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/50963) | ||
| * Yagiz, have not seen to many changes needed for a while so seems stable, likely that we | ||
| should make a decision on making it stable or if that is not going to enable by default then | ||
| we should remove. If we don’t enable by default then we don’t have a path to removing npm. | ||
| * Matteo, shipping a package manager by default is one of the key elements of what made | ||
| Node.js successful. Don’t see a good technical reason to migrate them out. Advantage of | ||
| shipping npm, is on stability of the build. One issue is loss of repeatable builds | ||
| * Michael, main point is if goal of people in making stable is a step towards removing npm, | ||
| then that is the discussion we should have versus making it stable and kicking that down | ||
| the road. | ||
| * Yagiz, recommend that we either remove npm or add other package managers. | ||
| * Robert, whatever we do, removing npm is not an option, then leads do we discuss adding | ||
| package manager managers | ||
| * Yagiz why can we not remove npm | ||
| * Geoffrey, would be large breaking change | ||
| * Robert, not worth it for political issue | ||
| * Yagiz, should we not reduce the bundle size | ||
| * Richard, unlikely to get a consensus. We will likely need a vote. | ||
| * Matteo, propose we remove npm from corepack, then enable corepack by default. If we | ||
| Have a vote lets vote on removing npm, versus vote on corepack. | ||
| * Geoffrey, if the goal is to offer bundle size, don’t we offer additional binaries. | ||
| * Yagiz, if vote is removal of npm it should include alternative of adding more package | ||
| managers | ||
| * Robert, does it even makes sense to have corepack if we are not going to remove npm | ||
| * Matteo, if you enable corepack, then typing pnpm it just works its great. But when using | ||
| corepack you don’t get a clear picture of the match between Node.js and package manager | ||
| installed. | ||
| * Richard, the issue around not knowing what you get. Original version only installed a specific | ||
| version. The project requested that it pull in latest. | ||
| * Vote | ||
| * We agree our goal is to remove npm from Node.js: Yes/No | ||
| * If we are not going to remove npm, should corepack be included in Node.js Yes/No | ||
| * Should we enable corepack by default today: Yes/No | ||
| * Geoffrey, we don’t necessarily need to rush into decision. Would be good to get how popular | ||
| is corepack | ||
| * Ruy, definitely going to be a large breaking change | ||
| * Geoffrey, the person who wants to champion removal of npm should write up proposal and | ||
| then we vote on that. | ||
| * Ruy, has been mentioned that distributing npm as are of corepack might not be legally ok. | ||
| * Michael, probably should not make corepack stable until we resolve issue around direction on npm. | ||
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| * lib: promote process.binding/_tickCallback to runtime deprecation [#50687](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/50687) | ||
| * Joyee has issue, please jump in there. <https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/issues/1482> | ||
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| * The env var `NODE_V8_COVERAGE` intermittently causes the process to hang [#49344](https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/49344) | ||
| * Richard, there is a PR that addresses this on main. | ||
| * Issue should be fixed. | ||
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| * lib: rewrite AsyncLocalStorage without async_hooks [#48528](https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/48528) | ||
| * Requires a patch to V8, the V8 teams reluctant to accept the patch | ||
| * Joyee - ask was whether we could float the patch | ||
| * Feedback in the PR seems to be that we should wait until V8 accepts in upstream | ||
| * Chengzhong, V8 team has discussed removing the API it uses, so there would be more we’d | ||
| have to float. | ||
| * Michael, seems very risk to float a large patch especially if underlying APIs it needs are | ||
| Removed | ||
| * Geoffrey, what is the alternative? | ||
| * Joyee, people are working on AsyncContext | ||
| * Geoffrey, but when? | ||
| * Chengzhong, hoping to make progress in 2024 | ||
| * Geoffrey, if it seems promising then waiting makes sense. | ||
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| ### nodejs/admin | ||
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| * Events / Collaborator Summits for 2024 [#814](https://github.com/nodejs/admin/issues/814) | ||
| * No update yet. | ||
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| ## Strategic Initiatives | ||
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| ## Upcoming Meetings | ||
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| * **Node.js Project Calendar**: <https://nodejs.org/calendar> | ||
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| Click `+GoogleCalendar` at the bottom right to add to your own Google calendar. |