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Preferred meeting tools #48

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mikeal opened this issue Feb 11, 2016 · 21 comments
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Preferred meeting tools #48

mikeal opened this issue Feb 11, 2016 · 21 comments

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@mikeal
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mikeal commented Feb 11, 2016

We need to lock down our preferred tools for setting up meetings.

  • Is hangouts still preferred for less than 10 people? should we move this to the nodejs account?
  • Should we consider GoToMeeting?
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In my opinion, Hangouts has the lowest barrier to use. With Hangout on air we also easily enable having observers.
GoToMeeting also gets the job done, but I think the interface is less intuitive and it requires an installation. Also it's not free.
I would personally rather pay for a google business account than a GoToMeeting one.

@chrisdickinson
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I'd second Hangouts — video also helps with the cross-talk we often experience on contentious topics.

Would this be for WG use as well?

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jasnell commented Feb 11, 2016

Hangouts is still by far the best choice for small groups. We need to figure out the CTC/TSC meetings tho.

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rvagg commented Feb 11, 2016

Hangouts is good for 15 if you do it from an Apps account, not that we can add everyone to the nodejs.org Apps account, but it's a rare WG meeting that gets >10 people from what I see.

I'd like us to recommend creating broadcast and recorded Hangouts by default. Overflow can then go to a view-only YouTube feed. Instructions here: https://github.com/nodejs/node/wiki/Meetings:-Creating-a-Hangouts-On-Air-Event

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mikeal commented Feb 11, 2016

The setup process for Hangouts is pretty esoteric but the automated recording and posting to youtube is amazing. Who needs to be added to the nodejs channel?

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mikeal commented Feb 11, 2016

Is there a way to bridge GoToMeeting and Hangout so that Hangouts does the broadcasting and recording but most of us dialin to GoToMeeting?

@Fishrock123
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Can't you live broadcast to youtube without hangouts somehow?

@Fishrock123
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Turns out you don't need any special permission to stream to youtube these days.

I made a simple test stream using Open Broadcaster Software (which is free and open-source!), which seemed to work fine, and it even auto-recorded it. You can find the recording at https://youtu.be/glnTbJ8e4oo.

I can run this off of the CTC call next week if we'd like to try livestreaming that way.

@Fishrock123
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ping @mikeal / @rvagg should I get setup to stream to youtube for this week's CTC meeting?

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mikeal commented Feb 22, 2016

Let’s test this out on the TSC meeting instead, the CTC meeting has a lot of people and more agenda so let’s not use it as a test ground quite yet.

On Feb 22, 2016, at 3:11PM, Jeremiah Senkpiel notifications@github.com wrote:

ping @mikeal https://github.com/mikeal / @rvagg https://github.com/rvagg should I get setup to stream to youtube for this week's CTC meeting?


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub #48 (comment).

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@mikeal The TSC meeting we can just stream via hangouts though? This is really only useful for meetings large enough that we can't stream via hangouts.

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rvagg commented Feb 23, 2016

@Fishrock123 what's the process for streaming to YouTube? Does it just capture your audio input? I'm +1 on experimenting, if we can announce a feed URL in the issue for the CTC meeting ahead of time that would be ideal, I'm just not sure what's involved in this process outside of HOA.

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mikeal commented Feb 23, 2016

sure, we can but instead we will test this with a few people rather than
potentially messing up a meeting with many more people :)

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@mikeal https://github.com/mikeal The TSC meeting we can just stream
via hangouts though? This is really only useful for meetings large enough
that we can't stream via hangouts.


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub
#48 (comment).

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@rvagg get Open Broadcaster Software and the youtube account streaming key, click "start broadcast", live.

Does it just capture your audio input?

It would be pretty pointless if it couldn't, but there are various way to set it up, it's very flexible. Here's an example of what it looks like if you don't want to try it yourself:

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@mikeal So, two things:

  1. Gona try to do a test run beforehand.
  2. We will still have the regular uberconfrence recording, it won't mess anything else up.

At very least, I'm going to do a recording this week with OBS and see how it turns out.

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@mikeal one thing, we might need to verify the youtube account with a phone number. Could you take a look at https://www.youtube.com/live_dashboard on the nodejs account?

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Here's a test recording from a brief test live stream: https://youtu.be/0XO4bjx7Bks

The music is the hold music from uberconference, and my voice and Rod's should be at the end. Audio quality is 48khz, not so good for music apparently, seems good for voice though.

At the very least I'll try streaming to my personal account, though I would prefer to do it on the node.js account of Mikeal can get that set up.

@Fishrock123
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Another thing, the link for the live stream is always www.youtube.com/user/USER/live

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mikeal commented Feb 23, 2016

I pulled up this page and agreed with the clickthroughs, there wasn’t any phone verification :/

On Feb 22, 2016, at 6:51PM, Jeremiah Senkpiel notifications@github.com wrote:

@mikeal https://github.com/mikeal one thing, we might need to verify the youtube account with a phone number. Could you take a look at https://www.youtube.com/live_dashboard https://www.youtube.com/live_dashboard on the nodejs account?


Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub #48 (comment).

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@mikeal Ok, two more things then. I'll need the account Streaming key. It needs to remain private (since using it you can stream any time) so please send it to me somewhat securely somehow.

Here's where you can find it:

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The second thing, could you send me 720 and 1080 versions of the new logo (on a background) that I can display?

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Unfortunately, for uberconference I don't think I can display who is talking:

  • People without linkedin account show their geolocation.
  • Phone callers who are not logged in on the web have their phone numbers displayed.

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This issue is settled. Uberconfrence has been the tool of choice for some time now.

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