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Apply consistent project template across OCI #4

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caniszczyk opened this issue May 16, 2016 · 16 comments
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caniszczyk opened this issue May 16, 2016 · 16 comments

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@caniszczyk
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@crosbymichael we should apply this across OCI projects once it's finalized

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@opencontainers/tdc-maintainers

Any comments/concerns on these docs because we need consistent rules across projects around contributing and how the maintainer system works so that it is explicit.

We had previous comments on the individual PRs but no one transferred their concerns here when asked. Please take a look.

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wking commented May 19, 2016

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 02:00:09PM -0700, Michael Crosby wrote:

We had previous comments on the individual PRs but no one
transferred their concerns here when asked.

How should the concerns be transferred? I'm happy to open PRs
addressing my comments from opencontainers/runtime-tools#56.

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@wking you can open PRs but remember that these documents should apply across all OCI projects. Be conservative with the changes you want to make because these are the rules that have already applied for years and have worked well scaling the projects. We are just trying to make them generally applicable across all the projects.

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cyphar commented May 19, 2016

I think that the way we have a "Conventions" section in CONTRIBUTING.md, but nobody appears to follow the whole "name the branch after the issue you're fixing" is something we should fix. There's also other stylistic things there that shouldn't super important to mention ("commits short messages should be capitalized" -- I don't agree).

IMO we should spend a bit of time removing cruft from there (which nobody is following anyway, but it confuses future contributors).

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wking commented May 19, 2016

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 04:55:41PM -0700, Aleksa Sarai wrote:

I think that the way we have a "Conventions" section in
CONTRIBUTING.md, but nobody appears to follow the whole "name the
branch after the issue you're fixing" is something we should fix.

Covered by #6?

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hqhq commented May 20, 2016

I agree we can consist these docs and apply them to all OCI projects, they just need to be well reviewed and discussed.

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vbatts commented May 23, 2016

largely this SGTM. Could we imagine a future scenario where a project starts with these templates but then deviates? (silly example, but like requiring 3 LGTMs)

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@vbatts We could but I think that is probably like a last resort. There are a lot of benefits to keep consistency across the projects as it is helpful for the maintainers and contributors especially since all they projects are related to one another and have many of the same people working on them.

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vbatts commented May 23, 2016

understood.

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@vbatts https://github.com/vbatts We could but I think that is probably
like a last resort. There are a lot of benefits to keep consistency across
the projects as it is helpful for the maintainers and contributors
especially since all they projects are related to one another and have many
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@crosbymichael I think we have enough consensus here that we should apply this across all OCI projects, I think we have runtime-spec and runc covered, I'll file a request for image-spec

caniszczyk added a commit to caniszczyk/image-spec that referenced this issue Jun 1, 2016
Ensure that OCI projects share the same approval settings.
opencontainers/project-template#4

Signed-off-by: Chris Aniszczyk <caniszczyk@gmail.com>
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vishh commented Jun 1, 2016

@caniszczyk This template is not valid for OCI yet. It has language about a Chief Maintainer which is not relevant to OCI. I can post a PR to address parts of the template that are not relevant to the OCI projects.
Is there a deadline before which this template needs to be finalized?

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@vishh no strong deadline, would be nice to have in place before v1.0

Feel free to send a PR in

wking referenced this issue in philips/project-template Jun 29, 2016
Split files into governance and releases and outline the maintainers of
the GOVERNANCE doc itself.

Signed-off-by: Brandon Philips <brandon.philips@coreos.com>
philips added a commit to philips/project-template that referenced this issue Aug 4, 2016
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Sep 9, 2016
Not all OCI Projects are primarily Go, and filling in off-topic
formatting advice doesn't seem useful.  One approach to this would be
to require projects to support 'make fmt' to handle any
auto-formatting.  But an easier approach is to keep the document
generic in this repository [1], and allow downstream projects to add
their own project-specific content as they see fit.  I don't expect a
lot of churn in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts
between those downstream changes and further project-template
development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Sep 9, 2016
Current ocitools docs are the man pages under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Sep 9, 2016
Not all OCI Projects are primarily Go, and filling in off-topic
formatting advice doesn't seem useful.  One approach to this would be
to require projects to support 'make fmt' to handle any
auto-formatting.  But an easier approach is to keep the document
generic in this repository [1], and allow downstream projects to add
their own project-specific content as they see fit.  I don't expect a
lot of churn in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts
between those downstream changes and further project-template
development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Sep 9, 2016
Current ocitools docs are the man pages under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Jan 10, 2017
Not all OCI Projects are primarily Go, and filling in off-topic
formatting advice doesn't seem useful.  One approach to this would be
to require projects to support 'make fmt' to handle any
auto-formatting.  But an easier approach is to keep the document
generic in this repository [1], and allow downstream projects to add
their own project-specific content as they see fit.  I don't expect a
lot of churn in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts
between those downstream changes and further project-template
development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Jan 10, 2017
Current ocitools docs are the man pages under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Mar 20, 2017
Email-based voting seems to be a blocker for Michael, who prefers
PR-based voting for non-spec projects [1].  And the image-tools
maintainers had a PR-only vote to add Aleksa as a maintainer [2].

Specifications are still recommended to only use dev@ (for increased
visibility among folks with only peripheral involvement, e.g. spec
consumers).  But non-spec projects can backtrack more easily from
decisions which have negative impacts, so we don't have to push them
towards dev@ as firmly.

Adopting this more-relaxed approach should help reduce barriers to
non-spec projects adopting the vanilla governance procedures, which
may move us towards more consistency between OCI projects [3].

[1]: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/eavesdrop/%23opencontainers/%23opencontainers.2017-03-20.log.html#t2017-03-20T19:54:38
[2]: opencontainers/image-tools#118 (comment)
     Subject: MAINTAINERS: add Aleksa Sarai
[3]: opencontainers#4
     Subject: Apply consistent project template across OCI

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Mar 20, 2017
Email-based voting seems to be a blocker for Michael, who prefers
PR-based voting for non-spec projects [1].  And the image-tools
maintainers had a PR-only vote to add Aleksa as a maintainer [2].

Specifications are still recommended to only use dev@ (for increased
visibility among folks with only peripheral involvement, e.g. spec
consumers).  But non-spec projects can backtrack more easily from
decisions which have negative impacts, so we don't have to push them
towards dev@ as firmly.

Adopting this more-relaxed approach should help reduce barriers to
non-spec projects adopting the vanilla governance procedures, which
may move us towards more consistency between OCI projects [3].

[1]: http://ircbot.wl.linuxfoundation.org/eavesdrop/%23opencontainers/%23opencontainers.2017-03-20.log.html#t2017-03-20T19:54:38
[2]: opencontainers/image-tools#118 (comment)
     Subject: MAINTAINERS: add Aleksa Sarai
[3]: opencontainers#4
     Subject: Apply consistent project template across OCI

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Aug 21, 2017
Not all OCI Projects are primarily Go, and filling in off-topic
formatting advice doesn't seem useful.  One approach to this would be
to require projects to support 'make fmt' to handle any
auto-formatting.  But an easier approach is to keep the document
generic in this repository [1], and allow downstream projects to add
their own project-specific content as they see fit.  I don't expect a
lot of churn in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts
between those downstream changes and further project-template
development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Aug 21, 2017
Current ocitools docs are the man pages under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Aug 21, 2017
Not all OCI Projects are primarily Go, and filling in off-topic
formatting advice doesn't seem useful.  One approach to this would be
to require projects to support 'make fmt' to handle any
auto-formatting.  But an easier approach is to keep the document
generic in this repository [1], and allow downstream projects to add
their own project-specific content as they see fit.  I don't expect a
lot of churn in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts
between those downstream changes and further project-template
development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Aug 21, 2017
Current ocitools docs are the man pages under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Mar 8, 2018
Not all OCI Projects are primarily Go, and filling in off-topic
formatting advice doesn't seem useful.  One approach to this would be
to require projects to support 'make fmt' to handle any
auto-formatting.  But an easier approach is to keep the document
generic in this repository [1], and allow downstream projects to add
their own project-specific content as they see fit.  I don't expect a
lot of churn in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts
between those downstream changes and further project-template
development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Mar 8, 2018
Current ocitools docs are the man pages under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
wking added a commit to wking/oci-project-template that referenced this issue Mar 8, 2018
Current ocitools docs for the man pages are under man/. No docs for
building them yet beyond the Makefile rule, and that may be all we
need ;).  Because there is no downstream consensus on doc locations,
remove the reference.  Downstream repositories can add it (or similar
content) back in as they see fit [1].  I don't expect a lot of churn
in this document, so there shouldn't be many conflicts between those
downstream changes and further project-template development.

[1]: opencontainers#4 (comment)

Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <wking@tremily.us>
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wking commented Apr 6, 2018

On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:13:44AM -0700, Chris Aniszczyk wrote:

Closed #4.

Is this no longer a goal?

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caniszczyk commented Apr 6, 2018 via email

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wking commented Apr 6, 2018

I'd rather you send PRs to those repos.

I haven't had much luck with that in the past ;). Checking on current compat:

$ for repo in project-template image-spec image-tools go-digest runc runtime-spec runtime-tools selinux; do echo -n "$repo " && (cd $repo && git fetch -q origin && git describe --always origin/master && git ls-tree origin/master -- RELEASES.md || true); done
project-template 61d73a3
100644 blob 028ec265df9c8de9781051f4460d7fdf88d0095f    RELEASES.md
image-spec v1.0.0-33-g8e82844
100644 blob e220042c89008275b86f44c967983675f39f968e    RELEASES.md
image-tools v0.2.0-86-gc95f76c
100644 blob e220042c89008275b86f44c967983675f39f968e    RELEASES.md
go-digest v1.0.0-rc1
runc v1.0.0-rc5-27-gcc4307ab
runtime-spec v1.0.1-28-ga1998ec
100644 blob a28e086a7ca3009d099a4e81027d5a084e578bc6    RELEASES.md
runtime-tools fcd5b23
selinux 76b408a

So go-digest, runc, runtime-tools, and selinux have no local RELEASES.md, and nobody is current with this repository.

I'd rather you send PRs to those repos

I'd done that with opencontainers/go-digest#20 (which was closed in favor of a simpler PR that never materialized) and opencontainers/runtime-tools#274 (which was rejected without mentioning future plans). I haven't attempted to file pull requests against runc or selinux, and it doesn't look like anyone else has yet either. But we might have better luck if someone else tilts at this particular windmill ;). I'm happy to file update PRs against the projects which do have existing copies of the docs, though.

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wking commented Apr 6, 2018

I'm happy to file update PRs against the projects which do have existing copies of the docs, though.

I've filed opencontainers/runtime-spec#966 to test my luck at narrowing the gap between runtime-spec and this repo. I'll wait and see how that goes before filing similar narrowings for the other projects which already include part of the template content.

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Ensure that OCI projects share the same approval settings.
opencontainers/project-template#4

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Ensure that OCI projects share the same approval settings.
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Ensure that OCI projects share the same approval settings.
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