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| # OpenJS Foundation Cross Project Council Meeting 2019-08-06 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| * **Recording**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI6i0bGmjM8 | ||
| * **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/281 | ||
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| ## Present | ||
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| * Joe Sepi (@joesepi) | ||
| * Jory Burson (@jorydotcom) | ||
| * Sendil Kumar (@sendilkumarn) | ||
| * Even Stensberg @evenstensberg | ||
| * Christopher Hiller (@boneskull) | ||
| * M.Sharaf Hijjeh (@abusharaf) | ||
| * Myles Borins (@MylesBorins) | ||
| * Manil Chowdhury (@keywordnew) | ||
| * Eemeli Aro (@eemeli) | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| ### Announcements | ||
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| *Extracted from **cross-project-council-agenda** labeled issues and pull requests from the **openjs-foundation org** prior to the meeting. | ||
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| None | ||
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| ### openjs-foundation/cross-project-council | ||
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| * adds a draft charter template [#279](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/pull/279) | ||
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| Examples suggested in PR | ||
| Jory: sharing where she gathered the info for the template (Node.js TSC and K8s Sig) and what a charter is used for | ||
| Myles: asks for clarification on if this is for new projects or existing projects | ||
| Jory: clarifies that it is for new projects and existing projects that do not already have charters which is many. | ||
| Myles: offers to review and suggests LF legal review as well; adds that legal will need to approve new charters regardless | ||
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| Action Item: Continue review; request legal review from Andy Updegrove | ||
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| * doc: swapping refs to TAC with CPC [#275](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/pull/275) | ||
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| Action Item: | ||
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| * ELI5: project charters [#207](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/207) | ||
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| Related: PR for Charter template (#279) | ||
| Action Item: Follow up on issue and close. | ||
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| * Post-Bootstrap work to be managed by CPC [#115](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/115) | ||
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| #172: Travel Fund issue. Proposal at Stage 0, PR to move to stage 1 (#278). Issue open in Node admin and email out to projects list. Will land in ~48 barring any outstanding changes or firm -1s | ||
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| #261 | ||
| Action Item: Open new PR with updated language | ||
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| #271 - process for handling reports | ||
| Eemeli has outstanding comments on the PR; will look at and address. Next steps may be a merge (merging into a proposal that is at stage 1). | ||
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| #263 - onboarding/off boarding regular members | ||
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| # Projects: Update docs | ||
| Action Item: convert to an issue and add to the project onboarding board | ||
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| # Foundation infrastructure | ||
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| # Admin policy docs | ||
| Joe taking as an action item. | ||
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| Issues pertaining to the board: probably not able to make much progress here. | ||
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| * New Code & Learn format at the next Interactive | ||
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| ## Q&A, Other | ||
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| ## Upcoming Meetings | ||
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| * **Calendar**: https://nodejs.org/calendar | ||
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| Click `+GoogleCalendar` at the bottom right to add to your own Google calendar. | ||
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| # OpenJS Foundation Cross Project Council Meeting 2019-08-13 | ||
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| ## Links | ||
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| * **Recording**: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aQB5e_cGn8 | ||
| * **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/286 | ||
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| ## Present | ||
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| * Joe Sepi (@joesepi) | ||
| * Chris Hiller (@boneskull) | ||
| * Manil Chowdhury (@keywordnew) | ||
| * Kris Borchers (@kborchers) | ||
| * Jory Burson (@jorydotcom) | ||
| * Mike Dolan (@mkdolan) | ||
| * Christian Bromann (@bromann) | ||
| * Dave Methvin (@dmethvin) | ||
| * Sendil Kumar (@sendilkumarn) | ||
| * Tierney Cyren | ||
| * Rachel Romoff (@rromoff) | ||
| * Abraham Jr. Agiri (@codeekage) | ||
| * Even Stensberg (@evenstensberg) | ||
| * Timmy Willison (@timmywil) | ||
| * Myles Borins (@mylesborins) | ||
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| ## Agenda | ||
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| ### Announcements | ||
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| *Extracted from **cross-project-council-agenda** labeled issues and pull requests from the **openjs-foundation org** prior to the meeting. | ||
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| * standards group meeting today in ~ 2 hours | ||
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| ### openjs-foundation/cross-project-council | ||
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| * jQuery project infrastructure [#285](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/285) | ||
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| - DM: trying to start a discussion about infra in general, but also with JQ we could use a refresh and get someone with some expertise to lend a hand here. See linked public issue on jQ repo (#319 test swarm). Most help has come from 2-3 people but they aren’t experts in the work that needs to be done. Is there a way we can have a pool of people who can help set up CI/CD systems? | ||
| - JS: looking for related infra in general issue that someone started a while ago. Should we set up an infra working group. | ||
| - JB: also we have a slack | ||
| - DM: we have the resources, but we don’t seem to always have the people with the expertise. | ||
| - JS/JB: Consider starting an infra working group for the OpenJS to give support for projects across the org | ||
| - TC: we should make sure the group has a deliverable/goal, like group’s purpose is to “make a plan” etc. | ||
| - MB: I want to caution that people to carry the water is the issue. Even if we get a group who will talk about it but can’t do the work that’s a risk. | ||
| -DM: If it was easy to find these people, the work would be done already. It would be good from a foundation standpoint to come up with a policy about what our response should be. | ||
| -KB: the board is discussing infra in general for projects. Understanding everything that’s there and what can be offered. As well as looking at the former jQ/JSF issues. | ||
| -DM: does a resolution need to be reached there before the CPC acts? | ||
| -KB: I don’t think so. I think this group would figure out what is needed. The board would need to make budget decisions. | ||
| -MB: from Node’s perspective this is a convo that’s gone back and forth for a bit. Our build team is a place where we don’t have as many people as we want. There’s definitely convo about whether we should bring in hired labor to manage infra. We don’t have a ton of bandwidth to invest in expanding infra. | ||
| -DM: some of this is legacy. I’m also sensitive to paying some people but not other people. Maybe some folks could do it in exchange for some recognition. | ||
| -MB: If we pay people to be on call, that could free volunteers to move forward. Maybe use contractors to execute. Maybe we could collaborate with the CICD foundation / etc. | ||
| -DM: it is causing some stress for the team and we don’t have the people to solve it ourselves | ||
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| AI: continue convo in #infra, JB to look into scheduling Infra WG meeting | ||
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| * adds a draft charter template [#279](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/pull/279) | ||
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| - JB: Awaiting MDawson review, will be sending this to Andy Updegrove for legal review per last week conversation. Mike Dolan can help route to Andy if that would help. | ||
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| AI: No action; awaiting review. | ||
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| * doc: swapping refs to TAC with CPC [#275](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/pull/275) | ||
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| - Board will need to approve, but this is errata. | ||
| - MD: email board, ask for approval via email. | ||
| - JS: I think this was done. Do we need an official vote? | ||
| -MD: will take this offline with MB if this is getting hung up. | ||
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| AI: MD & MB to follow up | ||
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| * ELI5: project charters [#207](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/207) | ||
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| AI: Issue closed. | ||
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| * Maintainers vs. Governing Body [#289](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/289) | ||
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| AI: Need someone to open a PR to add these clarifications | ||
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| * Checklists Templates | ||
| [#288](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/288) | ||
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| - MB/JS: should we add other templates to decrease friction, for example: add regular members, add new proposals, etc. | ||
| -JS: Duplicate data (checklist in 2 places); update new project application to link to issue template. | ||
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| AI: JS taking action item to get this process started. | ||
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| * Proposal to lift Node.js Code & Learn to CPC level | ||
| [#287](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/287) | ||
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| TC: we should make sure Rich and Ana have been looped in because this has been more ‘their project’ vs node official project and we shouldn’t appropriate it. | ||
| CB: I will make sure to get that. | ||
| JB: see also https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/242 | ||
| JS: we need TSC/CommComm approval first. Need issue open in admin repo. | ||
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| AI: JS to create/ping this issue on the TSC/CommComm/Admin front. | ||
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| * Post-Bootstrap work to be managed by CPC [#115](https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/115) | ||
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| - Travel Fund Proposal: was highlighted in recent comm comm meeting. nodejs/admin issue #398, no conversation there as well. Will check to see if there has been any conversation at the TSC level. | ||
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| - Add entry point for new projects on Readme. #261 - See PR #290 and review | ||
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| - Reports Process #160. Currently working through the proposal flow. PR #271 has comments but not sure if they have all been addressed. Looking for more approvals for Stage 1. | ||
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| ## Q&A, Other | ||
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| ## Upcoming Meetings | ||
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| * **Calendar**: https://nodejs.org/calendar | ||
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| Click `+GoogleCalendar` at the bottom right to add to your own Google calendar. | ||
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