Bring back the old feed please, the new 'For You' tab is horrible.

[beeman]

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The new feed is horrible and you know it.

Please give us the option to go back to the old feed.

You made an attempt, but you failed. Now please go back and focus on something that actually adds value. You are trying to fix something that's not broken.

It's evident that the people building this crap are not the ones who actually use it. It would be great if you would listen to your users.

EDIT: the old feed is still here https://github.com/dashboard-feed - Please GitHub do the right thing and give us the option 🙌

EDIT 2: This topic is now on HackerNews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37413126 ! Please consider upvoting for visibility

EDIT 3: This is now the 3rd most upvoted Discussion on this platform. I posted it on HackerNews for visibility: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37470259

EDIT 4: Turns out that this discussion got featured in the article from The Register about the new forced AI feed. Yet, GitHub management completely ignores it all... https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/13/github_alienates_customers_by_force/

[NHAS]

Agreed. The focus on turning github into more of a 'feed' social media while de-emphasizing the activity that is happening to my own repos to the point where the activity gets hidden in the noise is terrible and a huge regression to the previous setting

[bHabawel]

i agree on this one

[Kamionn]

Yes, i agree too

[palash2x]

hi

[drboone]

+100000, this thing is awful. Larger boxes means less history.

[bbw7561135]

not only bring back the old feed， but also the old seaching-style！I want to see the recent results of specific words

[horaciomuller]

I think this new feed is way more clear. I DONT know, personal opinion kkkk I prefere this one

[RumeysaaKopuz]

yes ı agree fırst answer

[xxFREESHROUDxx]

we want more content rather than larger unnecessary feed design. I hope they change this in the coming future!

[webbertakken]

I don't agree with the tone of the opening post, but I'd have to agree with some of its message.

First of all, great job on trying to change things for the better. Standing still is easy. Being progressive can be more effort and temporarily less appreciated.

Personally I tried the "For you" tab regularly, but lately it's been more of a once per week thing, when I consciously am looking to explore.

What I do not like about the combined feed are two things:

• It now always loads slowly, whereas before it was only the "For you" tab loading slowly (which I ended up feeding back to you)
• Prominent people I follow (who contribute a lot all the time) contributing two things now fills half the screen (see screenshot)
  

If those two things could be solved I think this new way is actually nicer than it was before.

[beeman]

There is nothing to be improved if it stays an 'algorithmic timeline', and a lot of other people just want the chronologic timeline back.

You try to 'add nuance' to something that's not relevant here.

Again, consider opening your own discussion. In there, you are also free to decide the tone you prefer.

[danielhoherd]

I agree 100% about not wanting an algorithmic timeline. One of my biggest gripes about algorithmic timelines is they are not deterministic, so you cannot revisit them and see the same information. That kind of thing may be great for keeping people on-site so you get great impressions, but that is completely at odds with productivity apps where we need to get actual work done. I want a chronological feed of information that I have selected as important enough to be given my attention.

[theAkito]

I agree, the tone of the opening post was unacceptable. It was way too mild & kind. It should've been more clear & say how it is: the new feed is UTTER DOG SHIT! 😉

[1977474741]

Hahaha

[xxFREESHROUDxx]

Absolutely, I completely agree with you. The new GitHub feed has been quite frustrating to use. It feels like they're moving away from what made GitHub great in the first place – a platform for developers to collaborate on code. Hopefully, they'll listen to the community's feedback and give us the option to switch back to the old feed.

[danielhoherd]

The new page makes this view completely useless for me. The reduction in value for me cannot be understated. I get zero value from the new view.

What makes this view particularly useless is that it appears that all information about repos that I have starred is showing up here. I don't want to see that information. It does not seem that I can filter the feed to show only people I follow, which is all I care to see.

If this isn't changed to allow me to not see every action from repos that I have starred, I'm either going to quit using this altogether, or I am going to remove all my stars. Either way value is being destroyed.

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EDIT 1: as pointed out below, one workaround is to visit https://github.com/dashboard-feed which shows the old feed, albeit in a horribly styled view. I guess this is my new home page until they make the default home page useful.

EDIT 2: Please visit the announcement for this feature and add your feedback https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/65343

EDIT 3: Github responded on 2023-09-12. Please visit the response and add your feedback https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/66188#discussioncomment-6983317

[davidldennison]

I've never seen someone so upset about a UI change

[theAkito]

Yes, same here. This is my new Github homepage, for now, until they remove this one, as well, just to force people, sexual harassment style, into using what they want, rather than what the people wants.

[danielhoherd]

@davidldennison this isn't a UI change. A UI change would be if they reorganized existing features, or restyled the pages. Replacing one feature with another is not a UI change, it is a feature change.

[drboone]

And why the #$%^&*()_+ does the blasted "we've royally screwed up your home screen with our new thing" box NOT STAY BANISHED!?!?!?!?

[warrengalyen]

This new feed is terrible, none of the filters seem to work for my own account stats, instead it shows content based on others. I can no longer see who has starred or forked my repos, which I use to determine what projects I should continue to work on. Where did this change come from? I didn't hear anything about it. I was on this morning then come back this afternoon and it changed.

[beeman]

They actually made an attempt about 10 months ago (I remember because I tweeted about it, then enabled it for everyone. Luckily, it got reverted quickly which I hope they do again. And then they hopefully just stop touching it.

[warrengalyen]

Ahh, yes, I remember that now. But it seems like it has become progressively worse...

[1977474741]

Hahaha, I laughed to death, it changed in half a day

[theAkito]

They actually made an attempt about 10 months ago (I remember because I tweeted about it, then enabled it for everyone. Luckily, it got reverted quickly which I hope they do again. And then they hopefully just stop touching it.

They won't ever stop touching it, because those UI designers need tasks, to keep their jobs. 😆

[Aziroshin]

I highly doubt that UI designers drove this decision. It looks suspiciously like an attempt to drive "engagement", which is the wheelhouse of business consultants and upper management.

[dmarx]

this is so bad. i'm not seeing any starring activity from people i'm following, which is the main thing i use the feed to monitor. this was one of my most valuable signals for keeping up with new projects and now it's just turned to shit for no reason.

[dmarx]

i tried to reproduce the old following feed by filtering down to stars and repositories, and i get literally nothing.

[janbrasna]

Yup, after filtering out just the stuff relevant to me all I see is two items. Whereas the /dashboard-feed shows dozens and dozens of additional events. 🤷

[iceBear67]

Can't agree more!

[theAkito]

Same here. The new feed is one huge bug. Not a "feature".

[tanneberger]

The new feed simply just doesn't offer any interesting information.

[shakfu]

I agree. I used to check my feed frequently as it pertained only to my projects, now it is full of noise about starred projects and just useless. Please bring back the old feed or at least provide an option to restore prior behavior.

[JamoDevNich]

This. I now have no visibility at all on my projects specifically

[pikhq]

This change makes me somewhat concerned that Github does not realize that its primary userbase is developers who, first and foremost, wish to know about activity in projects that they develop. This isn't Facebook for code, this is a place where I do actual work.

[beeman]

Indeed. It's clear on all sides that this change is not built by people who actually use this - or at least not use it as most of us complaining about it.

I also don't understand why they don't leave the option to switch between the two.

They are free to experiment but give other people the option to use something that actually adds value.

[janbrasna]

Yea I mean… if they were ramping up some ad impressions or engagement/visit time etc. for marketing income, I'd get that. But, honestly, with this change… my visits are not longer/deeper, now I have to skip the feed altogether and just use inbox notifications to go directly where I need to, without any browsing about. Not sure if this is the intended outcome for a "visibility" feed project;D

[ctilley83]

You described my use for the feed precisely. I only want to see commits/diffs for the projects I follow.

[cyberofficial]

+1 need feed style is horrible

Was best not touched at all.

Liked it when i can see the stuff relevant to me not some facebook style crap.

[thenaterhood]

Holy cow the new feed is awful. I want literally none of the things it does, I'm not on Github to discover content like the banner says and the feed is now full of garbage that's useless and completely irrelevant to me.

If nothing else please please get updates about my starred repos out of the feed. If I wanted to see updates from those projects I would watch them instead.

This seems like it was built with a complete misunderstanding of who uses Github.

[nnsdev]

If you give me the ability to filter the feed, at least add an option to see commits and co of repositories I contribute to, which is what I used the main feed for prior. This way we can toggle off all the stuff we don't want and can keep what we used to like.

I don't understand how this happened again, we had a feed like this before and everybody disliked it, and now it was brought back with filter options, but still omitting the things we actually want to see on this page.

[janbrasna]

That. Don't force me to "watch" something I just "starred". When I want/need to watch it, i'd watch it instead of starring.

OTOH the dashboard feed as the first thing I want to see on GH is centered around my content. For commercial projects this might be events around orgs/repos owned, for oss devs the importance might be on people/stars/forks… but this random feed breaks all update flows I can think of. With filters not able to get former content, or just simply displaying empty results;D

In all cases, this has to be fixed permanent timeline that stays the same between reloads in properly chronological order!

[DrewNaylor]

I agree with this, please at least give an option to have it just show activity on repos I'm watching like it was before. It was super useful to know if someone starred or forked a repo or followed me.

[beeman]

Indeed.

In addition, it's very useful to have a feed that's ordered by time, so you can check it out until you recognize something you saw the last time and go back to what you were doing.

In this 'For You' feed it's totally random and loses all the functionality.

[jyoo980]

Can y'all (i.e., the GitHub team) please don't force this obtuse, unnecessary algorithmic feed on us?

What's next, ads from sponsoring npm packages?

[danielhoherd]

What's next, ads from sponsoring npm packages?

Shhhh.... Microsoft owns NPM, don't give them any ideas.

[jyoo980]

I'm sure they'll respect the users who actually made GitHub this big and roll back this change /s

Looks like the enshittification has started in earnest

[cyberofficial]

they already advertised powershell in the Command prompt for a while, them advertising NPM stuff wouldn't be a surprise; its more of #when it will happen.

[janbrasna]

Regarding ads in inappropriate spaces on GH like code views…

[xxFREESHROUDxx]

It's frustrating when platforms like GitHub force changes that users don't want or need. This new algorithmic feed does seem unnecessary, and it's valid to be concerned about the direction they're taking. Let's hope the GitHub team listens to the community and reevaluates this decision.

[ghost]

yeah, I hate it. took way to long to figure out how to get rid of "trending crap", which I dont care about. its called "Recommendations", and of course they put it at the very bottom of the filters, because they dont want you to remove it. then when I unchecked it, I lost EVERYTHING that I used to see before, in regards to history of people starring my repos.

[Gamebuster19901]

How do I turn this shit off? Are there any 3rd party tools to bring back the old feed by using https://github.com/dashboard-feed maybe?

[DrewNaylor]

I just have a bookmark for that page.

[SinnerK0N]

you can use this one https://github.com/Gerrit0/old-github-feed/

[MadScie254]

https://github.com/Gerrit0/old-github-feed/

[KMohZaid]

thanks for script

new ui is little distracting and also now it doesnt show me stars other people doing like it does in old ui.(there filters are broken)

[stefvanschie]

I am here once again because https://github.com/dashboard-feed is no longer functioning for me. The updated feed does not address my concerns. I cannot filter certain events for only my repositories. For example, if I want to only see repository activity of my repositories, I will automatically get repository activity of "recommended" repositories, which are usually repositories I do not have any interest in.

There is still information that is completely missing, which was very valuable. Changes made to the wiki on my repositories are not being shown, making it impossible for me to verify if these are legitimate are vandalism. Furthermore, forks of my repositories are also not being shown.

This post has the second highest amount of upvotes across all of the feedback posts on all your products. How many more are needed before you start taking the feedback seriously?

[danielhoherd]

@stefvanschie what is going wrong with your dashboard-feed? I see updates from 45 minutes ago in mine.

[stefvanschie]

Mine was completely empty, although it is now showing one star I have gotten on my project recently. Everything before that is still missing (currently that star is the only thing I see), so I'm not entirely certain what's going on. I'm hoping it will just continue working from now and I didn't miss anything important.

[dpogue]

GitHub has posted a follow-up update about the homepage feed today: https://github.blog/changelog/2023-11-27-improvements-to-the-homepage-feed/

Unfortunately, this is still not addressing the primary complaint: I want to see commits, merges, issues, and pull requests from my coworkers in the repositories that I follow. That is all I want to see.

When I turn on "Repository activity" and turn off "Include events from starred repositories" I still see a bunch of months-old cards about pull requests opened by people I follow on random repositories, but nothing more recent from my coworkers on the repositories that I have marked as watching.

This new feed remains an active hindrance to me trying to get work done.

[je-sendra]

I guess they are trying to do something that both users and executives agree upon. I see a lot of trial and error in the feed changes tbh

[stefvanschie]

For me it seems better, it was mainly filled with activity on my repositories. But it still doesn't contain everything. I still don't see it when people for my repository, for example, and I still need to see wiki edits.

[MadScie254]

We can only silently accept this useless new version of the feed.😣 == test feed

[danielhoherd]

This whole saga of Github mostly ignoring the 2nd most upvoted thread in the history of the feedback forum is so frustrating and exhausting. I recently re-watched Cory Doctorow's DEF CON 31 talk and this GH feed saga resonated a lot.

[HbmMods]

Seems like they're running surveys on the old dashboard feed now. This could either mean that they're planning on bringing back some of the old functionality to the homepage feed (that's good) or that they're going to change and possibly break the dashboard feed (very, very bad).

[theAkito]

Thanks for the heads up. Will partake in the survey!

[theAkito]

The survey is about the feed you get on https://github.com/orgs/[your_org]/dashboard. Is that really the good dashboard feed? I would need to have an active organisation with the userscript temporarily disabled.

[danielhoherd]

I think the survey is probably meant to raise awareness that there is a per-org feed, and to solicit feedback. I actually didn't know that my org had a dashboard, but when I looked at it, it was just as noisy as the new default feed, and all the useful information was hidden among noise.

[darkleaf]

Up

[darkleaf]

up

[Cracko298]

I've gotten used to the new(er) dashfeed.
And while it's nowhere close to the original, that isn't gonna make me to "stop using github". I'd rather not learn a new platform like GitLab and just adapt to whatever this new Feed is.

[KMohZaid]

i am used to it now but starts from people i am following are not visible in new ui but old ui does show it. alo gitlab is not hard to learn i think.

[KMohZaid]

they just fixed stars notification, good but they need to make UI more comfortable(i meant compact, it is taking lots of area for one notification and this is uncomfortable. lol)

PS: @Gamebuster19901 sir why downvote

[KMohZaid]

they just fixed stars notification, good but they need to make UI more comfortable(i meant compact, it is taking lots of area for one notification and this is uncomfortable. lol)

PS: @Gamebuster19901 sir why downvote

i take back my words
again starred missings

[Gamebuster19901]

Because you got used to it.

[KMohZaid]

I didn’t knew there is a way for me too get old ui so i had to get used to this ui 😢

[Jv2350]

I totally agree about the new feed—it's not working for a lot of us. Let's keep pushing GitHub to give us the option to switch back to the old one. Your updates on GitHub and HackerNews are getting noticed, so let's keep at it. Hopefully, with enough visibility, GitHub will listen.

[KMohZaid]

Lets hope

[evdcush]

Did something recently change with https://github.com/dashboard-feed and associated workarounds to GH's microsoft-tier design change to the feed? 😅

My feed no longer populates beyond a few updates from folks and orgs I've starred.

[danielhoherd]

FWIW i get 30 events for gh api /users/danielhoherd/received_events. You can use per_page to get up to 100 with gh api /users/danielhoherd/received_events?per_page=100

[Gamebuster19901]

I do not experience this issue.

[KMohZaid]

Oh nice, it can be used for making custom feed view with filters.

That is exactly what I planned on doing; have you had success in retrieving all of your events? Maybe the problem is on my end.

I am slowly trying to make one when gets time
Found out that we also receive event when someone gets added to repo or org as contributer

[KMohZaid]

FWIW i get 30 events for gh api /users/danielhoherd/received_events. You can use per_page to get up to 100 with gh api /users/danielhoherd/received_events?per_page=100

Yea
And we can change page attribute to get more, i only fetched 2 pages and it was about 170 something
Seems like about 170 events are stored and old gets removed

[KMohZaid]

And we only need api key for retrieving private events that account received

[dextronomous]

wow really this thread exists did not know, but this frontpage dashboard stuff sux now the way it was before something major happened what a shitty front page useless information have to keep digging in if something needed

[madeindex]

Old feed with some UX updates

[sfertman]

It's so bad, I don't use it at all anymore. Only my repos now -- 1/4 of the screen is usable to me. The feed used to be my source of info about repos that people I follow found interesting. Now it's just absolute useless mix of releases from microsoft and other stuff I don't care to follow that take up 1/3 of vertical screen space EACH!. A release update used to be the same size as anything else and it was easy to see a lot of information in one glance. Now I have to doom-scroll if I want to find anything from the people I follow. This specific feedback discussion has been up for 9 months now and I found many, many more. Github is not listening.

[danielhoherd]

Github is not listening.

Maybe all of this useful feedback is getting lost in their AI driven feed of noise 😂

[llvee]

Hello,
I discovered this post while finding more ways to improve Github.

This is an interesting issue. I noticed lots of ways to improve Github that are potentially bigger issues.

For example, there shouldn't be three different discussions features which is the case presently, also it seems possible to override Github discussion features with personal discussions which is technically a security issue which albeit likely requires super user status to achieve. Multiple discussion features leads to difficulties managing communications as presently maximising team, community communications requires juggling a minimum of three discussions features, makes incorporating new search features difficult due to needing to differentiate three features with the same name.

The search, sorting in the community discussions, other discussion forums is actually broken as the search, sorting doesn't filter correctly for keywords.

I am not wanting to seem negative, GH having broken functionality doesn't make the technology industry appear great when one of the internet's largest sources of code's public functionalities don't work correctly on the main page that loads everytime the user visits the GH website. I am also not trying to detract all of the attention away from the desire to return to the previous feed. I understand that desire is likely due to the perspective that returning to the previous feed is likely easier than resolving feature issues with the new feed.

As mentioned in this post the newer Github social feed also shows alerts for actions that don't actually occur from the user.

The above are all difficult to resolve potentially due to Github's existing codebase & new code deployments likely conflicting with present use of Github. Open sourcing specific parts of the GH codebase may help with improving security, feature improvements. Open sourcing parts of the existing codebase can also decrease security at the same time depending on how that is done, & which specific features are open sourced.

If you're an engineer why don't we connect, chat further around collaboration, & unifying efforts to help seek out GH improvements?

Is there anyway to easily create a mega thread of current wanted changes? Or to create an optional unified thread of all community discussions around specific features?

[llvee]

@KMohZaid

Agreed, are you interested in supporting a new GH extension?

[KMohZaid]

@KMohZaid

Agreed, are you interested in supporting a new GH extension?

Yes
I am trying to utilise GitHub api to reproduce old feed , when gets time.

I am thinking to implement this to userscripts, because i can't think of anything else to implement so building whole extension will be too much and time consuming for lazy person like mr

[KMohZaid]

Here it is
https://github.com/KMohZaid/Github-Feed-API-based

You can take inspiration or provide suggestions and idea to me

(Also it good at design, please help with ui later)

[llvee]

@KMohZaid
Interesting, if I have time I will review this later. If you want to collaborate on building a functional browser extension please let me know. Other people have tried, existing projects create security issues, aren't maintained well & aren't very accessible.

[KMohZaid]

@KMohZaid Interesting, if I have time I will review this later. If you want to collaborate on building a functional browser extension please let me know. Other people have tried, existing projects create security issues, aren't maintained well & aren't very accessible.

Yes, i would love to

[limonte]

The level of ignorance from GitHub to this issue is just crazy.

Dear GitHub. I'd like to be very clear. The new feed is pure 💩 It can't be fixed or improved. Just ditch it and bring back the old one. Thanks.

[port19x]

Ideally fire some people along the way!

[lucasjinreal]

I decise to leave github, this website is terrifying nowdays, the new feeds on my homepage never goes right.

I don't know how does programer in github did this, they looks like just take money and did nothing.

[lucasjinreal]

I decise to leave github, this website is terrifying nowdays, the new feeds on my homepage never goes right.

I don't know how does programer in github did this, they looks like just take money and did nothing.