Upgrading to GitHub Teams

[damacus]

Thanks to the spring clean we now have access to a bunch of new features:

• Runner groups
• 60 rather than 20 runners
• Private repositories
• Code Spaces are now available.
• Private repositories
• Better insights

Private repositories: We're moving a few repositories to private. Notably, the terraform job and the Kubernetes cluster. The Kubernetes cluster isn't currently in the Sous-chefs org given it would be public.
This won't be a breaking change for anyone.

Codespaces: This is now an option but given it's billed pay-as-you we're going to not enable it right now.

GitHub Insights: We can now tell who's using our cookbooks and how they're getting there

[damacus]

What this means in terms of membership.

For now, we've greatly reduced the number of maintainers in Sous-Chefs (down to 18 from 50+). This reduces our yearly bill significantly.

Members that contribute to OpenCollective haven't been removed as the cost of their seat is almost certainly covered in the contribution they give (even the lowest tier covers that cost).

In the future @xorima and I have been mulling over different options for how we get maintainers more engaged and not destroy their inboxes with standardfiles PRs.

We can't add any new members via an outside collaborator, as this still uses a seat.

Any ideas that don't involve us rewriting the world would be appreciated!

[Stromweld]

How does one become a member of sous-chefs then without having to pay anything? I fear this may discourage people from wanting to become members and help maintain sous-chefs cookbooks in the future.

[bmhughes]

That's a problem we have already anyway, unfortunately. I don't believe the idea is that we are expecting people to pay directly, just that we had a lot of inactive members which with the changes would mean a not-insignificant cost incurred with no benefit to the group.

If people are actively contributing then the cost of the seat is offset by their work.

[Stromweld]

I get cleanup but then is the process of getting re-added or to get added to the org going to change, any vetting going to happen?

We can't add any new members via an outside collaborator, as this still uses a seat.

Adding members to the org also uses seats. So I don't see how we can grow much without either asking people to pay or switching back to the free account. If soud-chefs does allow people to join the org for free what level of contribution is required to maintain membership, other than paid members. Who and how often is that going to be reviewed and membership cleaned up.

I'd like to be more active in sous-chefs, but before I only had write access to a few repos and could only help review on others but had no merge access. Now I have no access and can't help at all short of cookbook update PR submissions.

[ramereth]

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