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Public Domain & Licensing - Open and Iterative Policy Development #317
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Proposed policy language edits to clarify the open license requirements in the open data policy.
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Also-- heads up, another pull request coming shortly on clarification to the other open license related files in this repo... |
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Really, this is a great modification, the result of community-raised concerns. The actual amount of text being changed is small, but the impact is potentially quite large. |
This is great!
Does the public have a right to know whether "protection of proprietary interests" has been applied? Additionally, what constitutes "proprietary interests"? Is it, perhaps, code to generate the data? When, if ever, is it acceptable for a contractor to withhold data under this clause? |
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...but IANYL, so you should check with White House counsel on both fronts. |
"for non-commercial or for commercial purposes" maybe just "for any purpose not otherwise prohibited by law" -- though this does make me wonder about the appropriate way to relate to things like the FEC's prohibition on use of campaign finance disclosure records for commercial solicitations. I'd hate to open the door to the larger universe of ill-advised revenue-seeking noncommercial clauses, but there are some obvious use cases that should be prohibited, and which might not explicitly prohibited by law. |
👎 I have a number of concerns which I will post later today, hopefully. |
On the up side:
But the phrasing isn't so great:
And additionally this pull request doesn't address many of the issues we've discussed:
Many of these points are per the community best practices recommendations at http://theunitedstates.io/licensing/. |
I haven't dived into @JoshData's entire list, but the concerns raised by @sbma44 and @benbalter strike me as quite sensible. |
It may be helpful to have a more visual diff in the thread for people, of what the changes are: I'm with @JoshData here: all this seems to do is add a reference to the status quo of (domestic) public domain for original USG works, while tweaking the description of the exceptions that may exist. To the extent it encourages agencies to have contractors do something ( So for example, it doesn't meaningfully address the issues in #64 or #257, which are about recommending license-free waivers instead of "open licenses" when it comes to government works, no matter who they're originally produced by. Perhaps it's not meant to address them! In which case, we can continue the discussion there or in a subsequent discussion. But the PR's description sort of implies that this is meant to address those concerns, and right now it's not. |
Wired ran an article on this pull request: |
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Looking on as a software developer (and long-time Github user) who arrived here via Wired (and a side interest in government), it is great to see that a tool built for collaborative code editing (and proposal) ends up being a fantastic use case and workflow for policy wording changes. Thanks to anyone who thought out of the box enough to make this happen, I think a lot more non-software-related projects out there could benefit from Github's (and other open source) tools, at least for the editing of official documents that depend highly on specific wording (whether for legal or other reasons) |
Hi! I’m Nick, and I’m U.S. Deputy CTO. Just wanted to share a quick update: We really appreciate the thoughtful feedback on this pull request and are still working through how to incorporate it on our side. |
Hi All! Rebecca from OMB/OFCIO here. To effectively amend OMB Memorandum language, OMB would need to rescind this memo and issue a new memo. For general reference, you can track new memorandum and participate in public commenting at the following web properties: Guidance for M-13-13 implementation can and should be iteratively updated on Project Open Data. The licensing concerns raised above have been incorporated into Project Open Data guidance at: https://project-open-data.cio.gov/open-licenses/. Please continue to suggest any additional guidance suggestions as Pull Requests to that guidance page. |
H I Rebecca
I’m blocked from my .mil location at getting access to GITHUB, but am subscribed to get mailers on some things…
I have a couple questions, some pertaining to
CUI [different EO than OpenData] [eventually] metadata and schema,
info sharing on other networks that would include classified data [another EO and revisions], and
international info sharing [ISO’s, NATO STANAG, and GDPR for example].
When I look at accessLevel and rights, and I don’t see what I think tool vendors [i.e.- Titus] need for machine readable labeling… but it appears y’all have a schema and that there are issues with interoperability, i.e.- crossing domains and using metadata for ABAC [see NIST SP 800-162].
DOD has Instructions and Manual, and IC has Technical Data Specs… I can send you links if you’d like
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Eric E Winters
USCENTCOM CCJ6 CSUP
"Adequate Safeguarding, and Appropriate Sharing, of Sensitive Resources;
it's ALL about the Information"
"War is 90% Information" - attributed to Napoléon Bonaparte
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After healthy discussion with the community here on Project Open Data and through events like the Open License Data Jam, the White House is proposing edits to M-13-13 Open Data Policy to help clarify the intention of the Open License section and address concerns raised about the lack of reference to public domain.
This is the first pull request proposing changes to the policy document itself, and before merging we want to feedback on the language to ensure it sufficiently addresses the concerns mentioned. Let us know if there are ways we could further improve this language!
Thanks again to everyone who has participated in these open license discussions to date--it genuinely has helped us improve the quality of our guidance, and we appreciate your time and thoughtfulness.