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Creality filament 2 #5070

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Add three more PLA filaments based on a temperature tower test

Bring "Generic PLA" in line, what seems "normal" for an Ender 3 (and most Creality printers)

print temperature based on a temperature tower test

going lower than 200C doesn't seem to give many benefits
going higher than 200C seems to produce slightly worse
overhangs, which becomes particularly noticeable at 215C

There is no reference pricing from the Belgian vendor,
however 20,99 per 0.75KG roll seems common
print temperature based on a temperature tower test

going lower than 200C doesn't seem to give many benefits
going higher than 200C seems to produce slightly worse
overhangs, which becomes particularly noticeable at 210C

Offical pricing from the vendor is 21.99EUR per 1KG roll
print temperature based on a temperature tower test

190C seems to produce some inconsistencies
200C seems like the best tradeoff
210C has noticably worse bridging/overhangs

Offical pricing from the vendor is 19.50EUR per 1KG roll
with some exceptions most regular PLAs seem to print well
around 200C, which is most likely due to the limited
effectiveness of the part cooling fan design on most
Creality printers
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BTW was Prusament just copied from PrusaResearch.ini, I wouldn't be surprised if those settings would be suboptimal for Creality printers...

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rtyr commented Nov 3, 2020

I had Ender3 at home for few days, I printed some models with Prusament/Creality/Generic profiles without any issues. We can drop the temperature a little bit for Prusament. Otherwise I will leave temperature settings on your judgement, even though the author of Creality Ender/CR profiles which are included in the SuperSlicer had different results (close to our old values). I hope stock extruder on Ender3 (very basic) will handle higher layer heights with lower temperatures. 60C on the bed for PLA seems unnecessary high to me, at least with surface used on Ender3. But again I will leave this up to you, since you have much bigger experience with this printer.

@rtyr rtyr merged commit f623aaa into prusa3d:master Nov 3, 2020
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Without having any Prusament myself, I won't submit any adjustment for it. I was just curious.

And your concern for the original Ender 3 extruder is valid of course. My Ender like so many isn't 100% original anymore, I have a dual drive extruder on there now. Still a year back or so, I've printed 0.2mm layer heights at 190C back then without any particular issues. From back I recall, the main issue I had with the original extruder was the brass drive gear getting dirty and over time worn.

The thing is that the extruder isn't the only thing that's barely adequate, the part cooling fan with the original shroud isn't super effective either (on most creality printers it's very directional), and the negative effects are particularly noticeable with bridging/overhangs on higher temperatures.

However, there is some leeway, for almost all filaments I've submitted at 200C, they're barely worse at 205C from what I recall, I'll take another good look at the temperature towers tomorrow.

But to be honest the current static temperature model more or less presumes a capable extruder. A model where temperature gets parametrically scaled across a defined range depending on average extrusion speed would make a lot of sense for an Ender. But I realize it's easy to conceptualize, and probably really complex to make work well in the real world.

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