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Add the typing spec #1517

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Copied over from https://github.com/JelleZijlstra/typing-spec

The text largely derives from the typing PEPs, though I added some
material. The organization is based on an outline by @erictraut.
@rchen152 and @Daverball made contributions to the text.

This was previously discussed on https://discuss.python.org/t/proposed-initial-typing-spec/39389. I'll submit an issue to the Typing Council to request its imprimatur.

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The text largely derives from the typing PEPs, though I added some
material. The organization is based on an outline by @erictraut.
@rchen152 and @Daverball made contributions to the text.
@JelleZijlstra JelleZijlstra added the Typing Council decision Needs to be approved by the Typing Council. Do not merge until approved. label Nov 29, 2023
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Addressed @sobolevn's comments and added @deprecated from PEP-702.

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One minor thing for later is we have a bunch of links to PEPs that should maybe become internal links

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@hauntsaninja I agree, but won't have time right now to fix that. As you say, let's leave it for later.


(Originally specified in :pep:`702`.)

The :py:func:`warnings.deprecated`
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The :py:func:`warnings.deprecated`
The :class:`warnings.deprecated`

As this is now implemented as a class?

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Ah yes makes sense, it isn't auto-generated docs

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I'm not sure how precise a review you're expecting. I'm okay if this goes in right away (we can iterate on everything), but here are some thoughts that came up when I skimmed it.

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# Minimal makefile for Sphinx documentation
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Why is this here? I went into this directory and typed make venv but it complained about a missing conf.py.

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Oops, probably a holdover from when it was in its own repo. I'll get rid of it. (You should make in the parent directory, which includes this spec and the other typing docs.)

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Yeah, I figured that out eventually. It's a bit weird how clicking on the Table of Contents header at the top of the sidebar takes you to the global ToC, not the Spec ToC, even though there is no "Next topic" linked from spec/historical.html, the last topic in Spec (so I would expect that the ToC link would go to the Spec ToC). But that's a very minor detail at this point, and probably some Sphinx oddity.

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This feels like a grab-bag section, and it's oddly placed at the start of the document (why start with unions, when nothing else has been described yet)?

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This comes from Eric's outline in https://discuss.python.org/t/proposed-initial-typing-spec/39389/4, but I omitted the sections for which we don't have any text yet. I'm open to reorganizing this, but we can do that later too.

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Later is fine.

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Maybe add from __future__ import annotations to this page? I was reminded of it in the section about forward references. I think it's within the scope of the typing spec, since it changes semantics: even if you don't use runtime introspection, enabling it changes what gets accepted.

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I'm not sure it does; shouldn't type checkers infer the same types with and without the future import? Obviously the future import affects the runtime behavior, but this spec doesn't need to describe that.

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Huh, I suppose. Does the spec not describe any runtime behavior?

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It does in a few cases, but in principle I think it shouldn't. docs.python.org describes how Python the language works; this spec should only describe the semantics of the type system.

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I'm not sure how precise a review you're expecting. I'm okay if this goes in right away (we can iterate on everything), but here are some thoughts that came up when I skimmed it.

Thanks! I think a general review is enough; this text is so big that we can't hope to get it all right, and I primarily want this in so we can start iterating on it and improving it.

@JelleZijlstra JelleZijlstra merged commit 7117775 into python:master Dec 11, 2023
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