Codifies male goats not having an udder #79722
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stop smearing vaseline on your photos |
It's better this way. |
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father of lies... goat milk in disguise... |
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Co-authored-by: Ghom <42542238+Ghommie@users.noreply.github.com>
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Pete is just transfem you absolute buffoons |
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Remove whatever petricia is, pete is a reference to a specific person. |
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Make Pete a woman then I want GOAT MILK |
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buy a goat from cargo. i also hear there's a popular game show that will give you a goat behind two of three doors |
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ill be honest im still vaguely fond of being able to milk male goats (and specifically this being pete's job) as an ss13-ism which i prefer to realism, but not enough that i want to block this |
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Pete's job is to eat kudzu and be a burger i fear- I've always used the biogenerator for milk after kicking his shit in. I far prefer straight-laced stuff like this rather than "male goat magically has udder" or "all rabbits that haven't been altered are able to lay easter eggs". When everything is wacky and magical, nothing is. Need to dull down some stuff to give that nice contrast to make the zany stuff (which is only zanier through player interactions, which tend to be hindered by a man sitting in the cold room milking his goat for hours) enjoyable |
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its 2550 bro we genetically modified male goats to produce milk |
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if Pete doesn't have an udder then what have i been making cheese with? |
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They're space goats they all make milk. |
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this makes pete sad.... at least add breeding components with other goats by using grass or something |
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☝️ 🤓 Akchually, if we being completely correct, same as humans, animal would need to go trough pregnancy to produce milk! Which means even female ( shudders) goats wouldn't just produce milk randomly, they would need PETE or something like that along with em! Explain that non-magic biological nor morphological sense realism enjoyer. Just repalce all cargo goats with Pete clones, in 2550 all goats were replaced with Pete's clones, rest... exterminated. |
It's completely possible barring genetic or chemical modification (it's FIVE HUNDRED years in the future ffs) that all cattle that are on or can be shipped to the station have already been impregnated and given birth because that's like 1000% more convenient? It's kind of like how shop milk comes pre-cooked and gas station gas comes pre-refined. Also.. remember that /TG/ chemicals are powerful enough to radically alter ones body structure instantly, from a single pill. |
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Pete could also just be trans |
Original PR: tgstation/tgstation#79722 ----- ## About The Pull Request This was addressed in #78759 (1b1fde4908826ef5c54ffc0734e74028270af3fd) and reviewed (and merged even though I didn't respond to it, oh well), but I half-assed it because the whole point was to prevent male goats from having an udder, but I only added it to the subtype of Pete i made in that PR. Let's expand that to all male goats now. ## Why It's Good For The Game It doesn't make biological nor morphological sense as to why a male goat can provide milk. Ideally this should be like this for all animals (because that's real life) but that's a later issue with further balance implication. I think it's still an interesting idea that Nanotrasen will just send you any old goat despite it being "useless" beyond being very good at eating plants. Maybe cargo should have a way to guarantee getting a female goat in the future? It's just like real life where zoos and farms have to constantly dealw ith female animals (such as giraffes or other exotic stuff) tending to be far rarer/cost far more than their male variants due to the potential to generate offspring (there's more nuance to husbandry than this but just play along)... and in space, every animal is "exotic". It still remains possible to biogenerate milk, which tends to be far faster than feeding/milking goats- which is something that the cook should have access to anyways. ## Changelog :cl: balance: Male Goats should no longer spawn with an udder, instead of it just being Pete. /:cl: --------- Co-authored-by: san7890 <the@san7890.com> Co-authored-by: Ghom <42542238+Ghommie@users.noreply.github.com>
About The Pull Request
This was addressed in #78759 (1b1fde4) and reviewed (and merged even though I didn't respond to it, oh well), but I half-assed it because the whole point was to prevent male goats from having an udder, but I only added it to the subtype of Pete i made in that PR. Let's expand that to all male goats now.
Why It's Good For The Game
It doesn't make biological nor morphological sense as to why a male goat can provide milk. Ideally this should be like this for all animals (because that's real life) but that's a later issue with further balance implication.
I think it's still an interesting idea that Nanotrasen will just send you any old goat despite it being "useless" beyond being very good at eating plants. Maybe cargo should have a way to guarantee getting a female goat in the future? It's just like real life where zoos and farms have to constantly dealw ith female animals (such as giraffes or other exotic stuff) tending to be far rarer/cost far more than their male variants due to the potential to generate offspring (there's more nuance to husbandry than this but just play along)... and in space, every animal is "exotic".
It still remains possible to biogenerate milk, which tends to be far faster than feeding/milking goats- which is something that the cook should have access to anyways.
Changelog
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balance: Male Goats should no longer spawn with an udder, instead of it just being Pete.
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