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Define the purpose of Vision document #22
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These 4 points seem to be in reverse order of importance. The purpose of this exercise, as I understood it at the beginning, is 4. -- to clarify the principles that should/must underly decisions. Charters are proposed, and FOs filed, for all sorts of reasons; the community needs assurance that the team will allocate resources and Councils make decisions on a PRINCIPLED basis. This document should outline those principles and give some sense of how to make tradeoffs among them. This will be difficult and divisive. Not all current members are likely to agree with a an explicit set of principles and their ranking. But without clear principles, decisions will be guided by politics: who can gather the most supporters (and make the most effective back-room deals) on one side or the other of a decision. Sure that's the way of the world; W3C's choice is whether it wants to be just another politicized SDO making decisions that a majority of the stakeholders can accept enough to keep paying their dues, or the stewards of a vision for a better web. If W3C chooses not to be the stewards of a vision for a better web, that's fine, but it shouldn't complain when some other organization evolves to fill that role. |
Actually I started it because I saw a critical need for 3 and hence 2. I agree that 4 is also important but I strongly agree it needs separate treatment |
Hmm, how can we communicate the direction to an external audience without getting specific enough about internal principles to guide actions to move in that direction? There's a risk that the principles become an semi-meaningless slogan, like "lead the web to its full potential" has become in the years since the founders' vision of an open planform essentially as powerful as the proprietary platforms became real 10-15 years or so ago. I do accept that turning principles into clear guidelines for action is a lot of work, and probably something we iterate toward over some years. But I still believe a " short version in vision and strategy document" is the highest priority for this exercise, and the external and internal direction statements should be derived from that vision and strategy. |
well, have a look at the first two sections of the Vision . They are about the web and its meaning to the world. They are outward looking. The second two sections are about the consortium and our values in how we operate. They are inward looking. Both are valuable. |
Which raises the question whether the web of data is still part of that vision. I also would like to point out that W3C is not operating in a total vacuum because it is also embedded since its inception in its respective regional regulatory and political environment. The ease of that integration was partly due to W3C's academic fundaments and renown. |
I don't think Avneesh's points were in exact reverse order. I do think the purpose of the vision document should be summed up as:
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I agree this issue seems to be the same as #53 |
Elsewhere, I had written:
Though the phrasing is different, I see that as compatible and essentially the same as what @cwilso said above. |
Nicely expressed, @frivoal ; I suggest we (add and) put this in a Status of This Document in the Vision document itself. This allows us to put it somewhere while debating whether it stays in the final content or not. |
Resolved by TF, take @frivoal 's text above and add in preface section. |
Every time I come back to this vision and strategy work, the quantity of material in this repository confuses me, what purpose are we trying to solve. I think we have good amount of material, and now we need to make it crisp and concise. For achieving this, it would be good to list what is the purpose of this exercise. I am lisitng some points as a starting point:
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