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Of course we need to solve this problem for the entire web, not just EPUB :) Has anyone looked at representing CML with custom elements? I expect the rendering would get very complex, but finding gaps in CSS would be most useful, and filling those gaps could be fodder for the Houdini project. |
Greetings,
(I hope this reply gets through)
Henry (copied) and I are the authors of CML and would be interested in how
CML could support assistive technology. We designed it so that it was a
flexible language (unlike other chemical representations). It will
interoperate with other W3C protocols such as XSLT, MathML and particularly
SVG. I have created animated chemical reactions in CML/SVG , including
electron "bookkeeping" . I have also developed tools for extracting
bitmaps into CML (mainly organic).
Chemistry is a very broad subject and so we would need to know the spread.
Some subjects, such as nanotechnology are very complex and very difficult
to represent. However if your concentration is high-school then I would be
optimistic.
My group in Cambridge also developed a chemical editor (Chem4Word) and we
built some simple assistive tools for editing chemical structures - rather
like Dasher for words. I would rewrite these from the bottom up now.
Look forward to hearing
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Of course we need to solve this problem for the entire web, not just EPUB
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Has anyone looked at representing CML with custom elements? I expect the
rendering would get very complex, but finding gaps in CSS would be most
useful, and filling those gaps could be fodder for the Houdini project.
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Since I posted this on the email thread as well: Volker Sorge's work (@zorkow) is highly relevant and handles many formats http://www.progressiveaccess.com/chemistry/index.php. |
I've worked extensively on accessible structural formulas and developed a fully automatic workflow to So I would regard the problem as solved for accessible representations of structural formulas. |
I emailed this out. I am sending this to the EPUB 3 Community Group, which has as one of our objectives to establish best practices. I am also copying others who expressed interest in Chemistry. In this email, I am providing a link to the minutes, and a link to the recording of the kick-off conference call. We also decided that our next call will be on Wednesday February 20 at 15 UTC, which is 7:00 a.m. Pacific, 11:00 New York, 16:00 London, and 17:00 Zurich. The Zoom video calling instructions are at the end of this message. The minutes can be found at: Link to the recording: This meeting will be hosted on the Zoom system. |
@jessica-white-macmillan, don't forget braille even it's tricky ;)
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Hmm. Are you saying alt text also needs to include braille? Can you elaborate so I know how to make your comment actionable? |
Alt text is not sufficient when the content must be accurate. Especially for the complex content. The best way would be to have an alt text and a braille transcript in addition to the content for sighted people. But this three ways rendering is tricky. At work, one of our techniques is to hide the 'graphical' content to AT ( Our other technique is for math. We use MathML with an alt text and we offer to the reader an alternative to switch to braille. My colleague made a script (JS) for this. This technique is really good for mathematics or physical science books. |
Associated with a grant from the Department of Education in the USA, we are looking at how to provide published Chemistry content to the mainstream, and to persons with disabilities that use Assistive Technology (AT).
We are just starting this fact finding phase. ChemML has been mentioned, but we are not married to any particular solution. I am fairly sure we will need a great looking presentation, and we will need semantic information that can be explored chunk-by-chunk using AT.
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