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Address Metadata-Driven Correlation #1244
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The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2023-08-23
View the transcript3.6. Address Metadata-Driven Correlation (issue vc-data-model#1244)See github issue vc-data-model#1244. Manu Sporny: I don't know what normative language we could add to address the issue.
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The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2023-09-15
View the transcript3.5. Address Metadata-Driven Correlation (issue vc-data-model#1244)See github issue vc-data-model#1244. Brent Zundel: This is another type of variation on previous issue... don't know if path forward on this is much different from what we just talked about. Happy to hear thoughts from group on this item. Nick Doty: When we have non-essential properties that can vary, if we have recommended set of thoe properties, everyone can follow them, users can be in single anonymity set -- do you need variation in these things, or can there be recommendation of "everyonen that does credential in this style, use these parameters"? Kristina Yasuda: Yes, not sure I agree, don't know how realistic this is -- even if federated identity, information about user can be in SAML assertion, and each representation can be a standard, but we can't force everyone to use same VC to do the same thing -- unfortunately, there are disputes on how to express credential at multiple levels -- how is plain text about user claims being represented, what cryptsuites are used, at every level there are almost religious debates on what the best way to do this, don't want to touch this. Brent Zundel: With the VC model, and notion of selective disclosure on presentation, every issued VC is ideally following -- for example DL, on issuance side, we have commonality on structure and data provided. Requring presentation of subset of credential even on metadata part of it other than few that we've already agreed to. I'm not sure what we can do about this issue. Manu Sporny: this one's tricky. I think what Nick is asking for: ina perfect world we could establish best practices for certain credentials. e.g., an age verification credential should have a correlatable issuer and should only express a large bucket age range. Joe Andrieu: The model for validation in VCs does require issuer to be correlatable to see if particular identifier is someone they should trust -- if I want to see if someone can drive, I can't take self-issued VC -- that's something that's baked into the model, we can't get past that part of correlation. Nick Doty: This is helpful, the verifier only has some list of people that they trust in order for system to be functional, understood.
Nick Doty: We can say if you can "group" that trust in some way, that can help user in some way -- so issuer corelation dosn't happen. About formats, if you're going to try to group issuers, you could group these other things -- that should be the recommendation, grouup issuers, but also focus on grouping attributes -- unify formats so you can't track it back to original issuer.
Brent Zundel: that's helpful, we have good path forward. Kristina Yasuda: We've written something similar for SD-JWT, but can't do that tomorrow, can eventually do that. Brent Zundel: ok, assigning kristina. |
The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2023-09-26
View the transcript2.4. Address Metadata-Driven Correlation (issue vc-data-model#1244)See github issue vc-data-model#1244. Kristina Yasuda: So this one, I was about to do the PR today, should be marked ready for PR. This one is fine. |
The issue was discussed in a meeting on 2023-11-15
View the transcript3.2. Address Metadata-Driven Correlation (issue vc-data-model#1244)See github issue vc-data-model#1244. Brent Zundel: Who can take this work? Sebastian Crane: I think these ones from the PING review seem to be very similar and I think they should be addressed in a cohesive manner. In the security world one often has faux attacks to gauge the security of a system. Privacy can be different, especially because of aggregate data concerns. Having some kind of mock attack would be good for showing correlating data issues, but the full extent won't be known until production. |
PR #1355 has been merged, closing. |
From PING review w3cping/privacy-request#121 (comment):
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