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errors: add ErrUnsupported #41198
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This seems to overlap with the existing way of testing whether a method/interface is supported:
Will we end up in situations where callers need to do two checks for whether a method is supported (the type assertion and an ErrUnimplemented check)? I know we can forbid that by convention, but it seems like a really easy trap to fall into. |
This new error is intended to be used with type assertions. Type assertions test availablity at compile time, and the error tests availablity at run time. Something like if wt, ok := src.(WriterTo); ok {
written, err := wt.WriteTo(dst)
if err != errors.ErrUnimplemented {
return written, err
}
// WriteTo existed but was not actually implemented, carry on as though it did not exist.
} In other words, yes, for these cases you are expected to write two tests. |
I see, this is about the implementation determining whether the method can be provided at runtime time, rather than the caller determining whether the "dynamic type" of a value implements the method at runtime. I see the value for this for existing code, but new code can use an interface type with a different implementation determined at runtime. type Foo interface {}
type Bar interface {}
func NewFoo() Foo {
if runtimeCheck() {
return specialFoo{} // supports .(Bar)
} else {
return basicFoo{}
}
} Does this proposal include recommendations for the wider community on whether to use ErrUnimplemented or the above for new code? |
Can we spell it without the Err prefix, since it is in the errors package? |
Would it suffice for |
(A minor suggestion) I feel
|
Has any research gone into whether this can be solved at compile time, not needing to add extra run time checks which Go programs would need to add? I know it's a hard problem to solve, but I assume it's worth a try before falling back to run time checks. |
An early version of the FS interface draft had such an error, which is maybe part of what inspired this proposal. The fact that io.Copy checks for two optional methods complicates a lot and may well have been a mistake. I would rather not make general conclusions about the awkwardness of io.Copy. Let's look instead at fs.ReadFile, which you raised as an example. Suppose I have an fs wrapper type that adds a prefix to all the underlying calls:
If that type wants to make the ReadFile method on fs available, it can already do:
With this proposal, the code could instead do:
The last line is the only one that changed. Compared to the first version, being able to write the second version is only slightly less work for the wrapper author, but far more work for the call sites. Now every time a method like this gets called, the caller must check for ErrUnimplemented and do something else to retry the operation a different way. That is, ErrUnimplemented is a new kind of error for Go programs, a "it didn't quite fail, you have to do more work!" error. And it's not the case that you only have to worry about this if you've tested for an optional interface right before the call. Suppose you have code that takes a value of the concrete type *Subdir as an argument. You can see from godoc etc that there's a ReadFile method, 100% guaranteed. But now every time you call ReadFile you have to check for ErrUnimplemented. The pattern of "handle the call one way or another" seems much better for more code than the pattern of "refuse to handle the call". It preserves the property that when an error happens, it's a real failure and not something that needs retrying. In that sense, ErrUnimplemented is a bit like EINTR. I'm wary of introducing that as a new pattern. |
On a much more minor point, given that package errors today exports four symbols, none of which has type error, I don't believe that "this is an error" is implied by If we are at some point to add one or more standard error values to package errors, the names should probably continue the convention of using an Err prefix. That will be avoid readers needing to memory which symbols in package errors are and are not errors. |
For the record, although it's mostly unrelated to this discussion, io.CopyBuffer was a mistake and should not have been added. It introduced new API for a performance optimization that could have been achieved without the new API. The goal was to reuse a buffer across multiple Copy operations, as in:
But this could instead be done using:
There was no need to add CopyBuffer to get a buffer reused across Copy operations. Nothing to be done about it now, but given that the entire API was a mistake I am not too worried about the leakiness of the abstraction. Credit to @bcmills for helping me understand this. |
The result of an optional interface check is always the same for a particular value. Code can branch based off of that and know that the value won't suddenly implement or un-implement the optional method. (Consider an http.Handler that uses http.Flusher several times per response.) What are the rules for methods that return ErrUnimplemented? If a method call on a value returns it, does that method need to return it on every subsequent call? If a method call on a value doesn't return it (maybe does a successful operation, maybe returns a different error), is the method allowed to return it on a future call? If there were a way to construct types with methods at runtime (possibly by trimming the method set of an existing type), with static answers for "does it support this optional feature", would that address the need? |
This is where my mind goes on this subject. It seems like the conclusion has been made that this isn't possible, but I think the space is worth exploring.
I suppose if you had interface A with method set X, and wanted to wrap it with B with method set Y (superset of X) you could re-wrap it with A afterwards to ensure that the final result had only the method set of X. Then at compile time you're assured to not call methods of B which are not actually supported by the underlying A. |
Can we please name it ErrNotImplemented? We have os.ErrNotExist not os.ErrNonexistent,
Example where guaranteeing that would be tough: A filesystem that delegates to other filesystems based on a prefix of the path. Any FS-level optional interface that takes path names can lead to different implementations. Forcing the multiplexer to cope with "one answer must stick", either way, could get messy. |
That's fine for cases where the optional interface is an optimization that can be safely ignored. That's not always true, though. Consider |
Another pattern could be a If there's no HasX method but there is a method X, you assume that X is supported. This is a bit heavy but not much more than a sentinel error check. It can be ignored when it doesn't matter and old code will continue to function. If it matters, new code can query it and make a decision about how to proceed. This also let's multiple methods on multiple objects be queried before anything happens. It also has the nice property that you can see in the documentation that an optimization may or may not be available. |
I wrote out a simple example for It's a bit wordy to have an optional interface for an optional interface but seems to work fine and is easy enough to use. |
An FS delegating to other FS'es based on path prefix can't answer that yes-or-no without knowing the arguments to the call (the path to delegate based on). |
Would it work if the HasX methods for the FS took the path as an argument? |
Maybe, but you're still left with a TOCTOU race. Consider the delegation mapping changing on the fly. |
@tv42 sounds like you're arguing in favor of |
@tooolbox I'm trying to discover requirements and make sure people realize their consequences. So far, I haven't seen anything else cover everything. That's not quite the same as having fixed my take on a winner, new ideas welcome! |
See previously #39436, but that is proposed for operations that are not supported at all, not as an indication to fall back to an alternate implementation. |
You lost me a bit here. If the method in question is defined to do exactly X, it should definitely not do almost-X instead. I think that's true in general, with or without ErrUnimplemented. Translating to your example (I hope!), suppose there's a Copy method and an optional CopyReflink method, and CopyReflink is considered a reasonable optimized implementation of Copy, but Copy is not a valid implementation of CopyReflink. Then I would expect that func Copy might look for a CopyReflink method, use it if possible, and otherwise fall back to Copy.
As written, if x.CopyReflink fails for any reason, Copy falls back to plain x.Copy. In this case, that seems fine: if it fails, presumably no state has changed so doing x.Copy is OK. But regardless of whether I got the above right, having ErrUnimplemented available doesn't seem to help any. If x.CopyReflink returns ErrUnimplemented, then we agree that the code would fall back to x.Copy. But what if it returns a different error, like "cannot reflink across file systems"? Shouldn't that fall back to x.Copy too? And what if it returns "permission denied"? Maybe that shouldn't fall back to x.Copy, but presumably x.Copy will get the same answer. In this case there are other errors that should be treated the same way as ErrUnimplemented, but not all. So testing for ErrUnimplemented introduces a special path that is either too special or not special enough. |
@rsc You've successfully debated against my point wrt I think this sort of "try an optimization" codepaths should only fall back to the unoptimized case on specific errors explicitly talking about the optimization (here, e.g. EXDEV), not just any error. And in that world, ErrUnimplemented is one of those specific errors. I will happily admit this is more of a philosophical stance than something I can vigorously defend. I don't like programs "hitting the same failure multiple times". I don't like seeing e.g. multiple consecutive attempts to open the same file, with the same error, just because the code tries all possible alternatives on errors that aren't specific to the alternate codepath. |
Consider a file system operation like Of course we can define a particular error result for |
@ianlancetaylor, the I still prefer the |
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As suggested by Bryan. This should fix the failing TestIPConnSpecificMethods on plan9 after CL 476217 was submitted. For #41198 Change-Id: I18e87b3aa7c9f7d48a1bd9c2819340acd1d2ca4e Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/476578 Reviewed-by: Cherry Mui <cherryyz@google.com> Run-TryBot: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> Reviewed-by: Bryan Mills <bcmills@google.com> Auto-Submit: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org>
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…ported As suggested by Bryan, also update (Errno).Is on windows to include the missing oserror cases that are covered on other platforms. Quoting Bryan: > Windows syscalls don't actually return those errors, but the dummy Errno > constants defined on Windows should still have the same meaning as on > Unix. Updates #41198 Change-Id: I15441abde4a7ebaa3c6518262c052530cd2add4b Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/476875 TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org> Reviewed-by: Bryan Mills <bcmills@google.com> Run-TryBot: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> Reviewed-by: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>
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…R_CALL_NOT_IMPLEMENTED These error codes are returned on windows in case a particular functions is not supported. Updates #41198 Change-Id: Ic31755a131d4e7c96961ba54f5bb51026fc7a563 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/476916 Auto-Submit: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> Reviewed-by: Bryan Mills <bcmills@google.com> Reviewed-by: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com> Run-TryBot: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org>
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All platform specific errors are now covered by errors.ErrUnsupported. Updates #41198 Change-Id: Ia9c0cad7c493305835bd5a1f349446cec409f686 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/476917 Run-TryBot: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com> Reviewed-by: Cherry Mui <cherryyz@google.com> Reviewed-by: Bryan Mills <bcmills@google.com> TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org> Auto-Submit: Tobias Klauser <tobias.klauser@gmail.com>
I think all that's remaining here for the release is to decide whether |
At some point someone should also decide whether to update: But they're not as closely tied to the release cycle, |
I agree that |
We can't define |
Technically I think that making |
I looked at
So I don't think we need to change anything in these packages. Happy to hear counter-arguments. |
I would really like to have an expedited review process for trivial API changes, but so long as we're requiring external contributors to go through full proposal review for similarly small changes I don't think we should skip it ourselves. But maybe we can consider it an addendum to this proposal rather than an entirely new one? |
Yes, I think I'm ready to call it an addendum to this proposal. Sending a CL. |
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Also mention errors that implement it. For #41198 Change-Id: I4f01b112f53b19e2494b701bb012cb2cb52f8962 Reviewed-on: https://go-review.googlesource.com/c/go/+/498775 Reviewed-by: Eli Bendersky <eliben@google.com> Auto-Submit: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com> Reviewed-by: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com> Run-TryBot: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com> Reviewed-by: Michael Knyszek <mknyszek@google.com> TryBot-Result: Gopher Robot <gobot@golang.org> Run-TryBot: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org>
UPDATE: This proposal has shifted from the original description to the one described in comments below.
Go has developed a pattern in which certain interfaces permit their implementing types to provide optional methods. Those optional methods are used if available, and otherwise a generic mechanism is used.For example:io.WriteString
checks whether anio.Writer
has aWriteString
method, and either calls it or callsWrite
.io.Copy
checks the source for aWriterTo
method, and then checks the destination for aReaderFrom
method.net/http.(*timeoutWriter).Push
checks for aPush
method, and returnsErrNotSupported
if not found.The io/fs proposal (#41190) proposes various other optional methods, such asReadFile
, where there is again a generic implementation if the method is not defined.The use ofWriterTo
andReaderFrom
byio.Copy
is awkward, because in some cases whether the implementation is available or not is only known at run time. For example, this happens foros.(*File).ReadFrom
, which uses thecopy_file_range
system call which is only available in certain cases (see the error handling in https://golang.org/src/internal/poll/copy_file_range_linux.go). Whenos.(*File).ReadFrom
is called, butcopy_file_range
is not available, theReadFrom
method falls back to a generic form ofio.Copy
. This loses the buffer used byio.CopyBuffer
, leading to release notes like https://golang.org/doc/go1.15#os, leading in turn to awkward code and, for people who don't read the release notes, occasional surprising performance loss.The use of optional methods in the io/fs proposal seems likely to lead to awkwardness with fs middleware, which must provide optional methods to support higher performance, but must then fall back to generic implementations with the underlying fs does not provide the method.For any given method, it is of course possible to add a result parameter indicating whether the method is supported. However, this doesn't help existing methods. And in any case there is already a result parameter we can use: theerror
result.I propose that we add a new valueerrors.ErrUnimplemented
whose purpose is for an optional method to indicate that although the method exists at compile time, it turns out to not be available at run time. This will provide a standard well-understood mechanism for optional methods to indicate that they are not available. Callers will explicitly check for the error and, if found, fall back to the generic syntax.In normal use this error will not be returned to the program. That will only happen if the program calls one of these methods directly, which is not the common case.I propose that the implementation be simply the equivalent ofvar ErrUnimplemented = errors.New("unimplemented operation")
Adding this error is a simple change. The only goal is to provide a common agreed upon way for methods to indicate whether they are not available at run time.ChangingReadFrom
andWriteTo
and similar methods to returnErrUnimplemented
in some cases will be a deeper change, as that could cause some programs that currently work to fail unexpectedly. I think the overall effect on the ecosystem would be beneficial, in avoiding problems like the one withio.CopyBuffer
, but I can see reasonable counter arguments.The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: