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Revamp go-ipfs Release Flow #6482
Revamp go-ipfs Release Flow #6482
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Any real reason not to combine stages 2 and 3? Really, we usually ask the broader community (stage 3) first because they tend not to be using IPFS for mission critical operations. That is:
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My rationale for this separation was based on my assumption that we are very limited in capacity to deal with incoming bug reports.
I expect that our early testers are more knowledgeable and therefore, more capable of debugging themselves part of the problem or at least providing more useful information, which will save us a ton of time and cover a ton of bugs.
In contrast, I expect that the broad community to be able to also pick on bugs but provide less useful information. By doing early testers first, we save some time from debugging less documented/debugged bugs (which would overlap with the ones that our early testers will report).
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That said, I'm not holding any strong feelings towards the flow. Happy to take in the wisdom of the maintainers and iterate on it :)
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What about:
I guess I mostly just want a chance to test it with lower stakes than people relying on IPFS in production systems.
Most of the bug reports we get from announcements on IRC are actually pretty good. They also tend to be pretty straight forward to diagnose as they aren't subtle performance issues.
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We should not advise folks to run RC in production, rather just invite them to test on their test infra and QA if they have it built.
This is good info to know. If you feel confident on merging Stage 2 and 3, then let's do it. Just confirm and I'll update it
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It's sounds weird that certain releases are meant for partners. It sounds like giving early access to features even though it means "try it out". It should be very clear that anyone can try it out. I can also imagine that different partners (and users) may choose to test ipfs pre-releasees at different stages depending on circumstances.
Note that it is also weird that we give some partners a half-baked release to test. Either they test it by deploying it to their users, in which case they should not be given a half-baked release that can break their apps (even if they volunteer), or they have they're own testing environments, in which case they could directly master or a release branch continuously without waiting for a specific release stage.
Otherwise said:
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We absolutely must not encourage partners to run a RC in production that can potentially harm their service and hurt their users. What we hope is for partners to use their own Beta channels, Testing Infrastructure and potentially QA setup to let us know if the new release passes the tests.
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Any release we make can potentially break something. This is an inviolate rule of software and we must not lie to ourselves about this. The goal here is to minimize the impact by deploying in stages, not to avoid all harm.
We definitely shouldn't ask our partners to run RCs that haven't been tested but we should absolutely ask them to run an RC that we believe to be "ready for release", to reduce the impact of any bugs they may encounter. That way they can roll back, we can fix the issue, and then move on with the release cycle without waiting for another release.
This would be awesome but it's asking a lot from our partners and isn't currently the weakest part of our release process.
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You know, we probably can just call these alpha, beta, etc. That should make this easier to explain to users:
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See: #6496
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Are we going to be making this clear via some form of numbering of the rc, i.e. v0.4.22-rc-1-3 => Stage 1, iteration 3?
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The plan is just to use one number. The RC- signals that there has been a new one published
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See my comment on alpha, beta, etc. above.
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The
🔦 Highlights
and🏗 API Changes
could potentially be replaced by the Changelog. That said, there is still value on highlighting some of the changes, the ones that we want users to know about first (or the ones that we want to ensure that users see, in case they don't have time to read the entire changelog).There was a problem hiding this comment.
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Or, more generally, breaking changes/notices.
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Note: as noted on Release Flow, this whole stage can potentially be automated. Until it is, let's have the items as a check list so that we don't forget any :)
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We don't have this yet.
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@bigs isn't there a thing?
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It is a thing but not yet for IPFS just yet.
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Can we even do this yet? cc @ipfs/wg-infrastructure.
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@mburns ?
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These are built into the interop tests.
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IPFS Cluster?
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We're going to need DRIs for this. Maybe add a line about pinging the relevant maintainers?
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Let's add Pinata and remove Open Bazaar (forked version).
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I'm pretty sure that both of the lists here can be way bigger. We probably should have a "expectations description" before adding more folks
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Can we test this against go-ipfs? I thought it embedded a js-ipfs node.
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AFAIK, it can do both. Will check again.
For the other readers. What @Stebalien meant by
this
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(yes, sorry)
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I past we had times when parts of
docs/config.md
anddocs/experimental-features.md
got out of date. Its the source of truth for many power users. It should be a part of the checklist:There was a problem hiding this comment.
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This gist needs to be updated to point to the go code repos. Thanks to @alanshaw for creating it in the first place.
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The
bin/mkreleaselog
script currently does this. Output: https://blog.ipfs.io/93-go-ipfs-0.4.21#huge-thank-you-to-everyone-that-made-this-release-possibleThere was a problem hiding this comment.
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Maybe we should start pointing people at IRC/Matrix instead of the All Hands.
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Multiple people have reported that showing up on the main channel on IRC with ideas and questions typically results into them falling into oblivion.
If someone is new, it is nice to see that there are humans, that is why the call is important.
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Fair enough.
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Gone for now.
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Is there a replacement?
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@momack2 ?
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Ho, bummer...
Please consider this in the future for disruptive problems. At Infura we have been stuck with problematic release for months without solution (other than forking): 0.4.19 and 0.4.20 had memory usage problem but we couldn't revert to 0.4.18 due to security reason. This will only become more critical in the future.
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In that case, we would have applied the CPU fixes in 0.4.19 to 0.4.18 as a patch. This is just saying that we're not going to release a 0.4.20 and then go back and patch a 0.4.18 release.
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Anything left here?