Web Conference 2023.02.07 Curb
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Main Topics
City Data Policy w/ Oakland and Populus
- Welcome - Jacob Larson, City of Omaha, Parking and Mobility
- City Data Policy
- Oakland Presentation on city data policy work for CDS - Kerby Olsen, City of Oakland, OakDOT
- Oakland Smart Loading Zones (GovTech Blog)
- Council Program Report (PDF)
- Populus Presentation on data policy implementation - Eliot Mueting, Populus
- Oakland Presentation on city data policy work for CDS - Kerby Olsen, City of Oakland, OakDOT
- Open Discussion
- Hosts: Jacob Larson, City of Omaha, Parking and Mobility
- Note Taker: Elias Khoury, City of San Jose
- Facilitator: Michael Schnuerle, OMF
- Outreach: Michael Schnuerle, OMF
- 41 Attendees
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Meeting Recording - Passcode:
KW=Ox#7# - OMF Slide Presentation
Michael Schnuerle, OMFs Director of Open Source Operations had some opening comments related to the meeting.
Jacob Larson, of OMF’s Working Group Steering Committee (from City of Omaha), followed up with presentation about Curb Data Specifications (CDS), how is it built (open source), what platform is used (Github), who is using CDS (both private and public sector), and talked about release 1.0 completion and how long has it been available.
Michael Schnuerle, OMFs Director of Open Source Operations, followed up with a brief statements encouraging participation in the presentations offered by City of Oakland and Populus and asked participants to think about the relevance of the presentations and the discussion to their own organizations that could trigger questions to help the discussions around the topic, especially that policy and legal considerations may differ across the organizations. Andrew Glass Hastings, Executive Director of OMF echoed what Michael started with stressing the need to frame the discussions around policy and legal issues.
Michael, then introduced Kerby Olsen of City of Oakland, OakDOT, one of the presenters of the meeting.
Kerby Olsen, of OakDOT, started with the presentation for modernizing commercial loading. The presentation focused on the goals (safety and availability), Gaps and Barriers (not priced, illegal parking, delivery drivers won’t pay), Solution (add meters and create a digital permit), and Tips (involve local businesses and other interest groups).
Kerby continued to contrast the traditional freight loading zone model to the proposed one. The first is free, the proposed is paid through metered parking and digital permit, the first requires more resources for enforcement, the proposed is easier but requires the installation of meters. Kerby then provided some data related to the use of the freight loading zones. Their collected data shows the zones were occupied 95% of the time, however, 45% the parking was illegal. This meant that the freight loading zones were not available for their intended use for a big portion of time. Data from other nearby cities such as SFMTA and Berkeley were consistent with Oakland’s findings.
Kerby continued to explain how OakDOT looked into the different technologies that some vendors are providing such as GPS enabled vehicles and the software platforms available to aggregate the data, CDS, and introducing meters to these zones. After consideration they proposed solution included the installation of meters in these zones, creating the digital permit, and adding more zones. Kerby continued to explain that during their outreach with local businesses, Chamber of Commerce, and the major delivery vendors such as Amazon and Fedex. OakDOT tried to highlight the benefits of the proposal including improved zone availability, safety, and enhanced availability to collect data about utilization. One consideration that was highlighted is that although the zones are now at a fee, however, the availability and safety will significantly improve.
Kerby, added that the program is going to be closely monitored April through May when they will be issuing Warnings first and encourage vendors to purchase the digital permits. Kerby then opened it for questions.
Eliot Mueting of CDS WGSC (with Populus), commented that as a vendor to OakDOT they used data to better manage streets and curbs. It started with micro-mobility and car-share programs. During MDS, it took about 6 months to get data. Vendors such as Amazon, Fedex and UPS showed interest with CDS and that it would be easy for adoption if all cities express to the vendors that they’ve adopted or planning to adopt CDS.
Michael Schnuerle, OMFs Director of Open Source Operations raised a question to OakDOT on whether it is typical that every permit goes to Council to be approved.
Kerby of OakDOT clarified that introducing a fee at a loading zone had to be approved by Council once so the City would be able to start charging for using the freight loading zones.
Tomas Carranza of LA DOT and CDS WGSC asked a question through chat whether OakDOT made changes to enforcement such as introducing automated enforcement.
Kerby replied with a no, but explained that this is something that potentially can be discussed in the future while taking into consideration privacy concerns. In addition, one of the key elements in their implemented solution is that they were able to get Council commitment to support the enforcement of the newly created zones.
Andrew, of OMF noted from the info presented that although compliance improved, it didn’t seem that payments were being made, and followed with a question on whether other options/solutions considered instead of the implemented solution.
Kerby, of OakDOT, responded that other options were not considered.
Brian Hamlin of CDS WGSC and Seattle DOT asked whether non-commercial vehicles doing deliveries such as Uber and other non-traditional delivery services are allowed to park at these zones.
Kerby, of OakDOT, responded that currently it is not allowed but may be considered in the future.
Elias Khoury of CDS WGSC, San José DOT, asked OakDOT on how they will be measuring the success.
Kerby, OakDOT, stated that they will measure compliance and improvement in compliance will indicate success.
Kenya Wheeler of CDS WGSC, SFMTA provided that their organization have aggressive enforcement related to these zones. Big vendors pay monthly fees to be able to park although other small one don’t. He also mentioned that SFMTA has created a general loading and unloading curb spaces/zones to allow the non-traditional delivery services to park for 5 minutes. He then wondered whether OakDOT experienced push back from stakeholders when they introduced payment for the zones.
Michael Schnuerle, OMFs Director of Open Source Operations then asked the meeting participants to think about what barriers or resources each organization has related to this topic.
Angela Giacchetti, OMFs Member Engagement Manager made 2 announcements:
- OMF Member DEMO Day is Feb 17th!
- City of Orlando joined CDS
