Auto remove empty blocks

[kopepasah]

As mentioned in #1171, it is quite easy to create a bunch of empty blocks when typing and it would be nice to remove a block if it is empty, either on focusout or save/publish.

Considerations:

• When a block loses focus, the user may not want the block to be removed.

[aduth]

Another consideration: From a data / attributes perspective, what does it mean to say that a block is "empty"?

[jasmussen]

I'm reluctant on this one, in part because the user might want that extra space that an empty p provides. Worth thinking about, in context of the influx of feedback we'll probably get soon.

[kristarella]

I'm reluctant on this one, in part because the user might want that extra space that an empty p provides. Worth thinking about, in context of the influx of feedback we'll probably get soon.

I agree that someone might want to add an empty block. Maybe there could be a "space" block in the Layout Blocks, or an option on the Separator Block to hide the line?

The other thing to consider if empty blocks were to be removed, when would it happen? Presumably there will be autosave and it would be terrible to do it then. Perhaps on publish?

[aaronjorbin]

Even if not automatic, there should be a way to remove an empty block. If there is a way right now, it's not obvious to me.

[aduth]

@aaronjorbin See also #130, #1251

It is currently possible in text blocks by pressing backspace in an empty text block, as long as it's not the first. Or by selecting but not focusing the editable field and pressing backspace (a little bit of a challenge, have to click at the border).

[jasmussen]

In addition to making a trash button, should we make the clickable border area bigger?

[kopepasah]

I still believe empty block should be removed. If a user wants an empty space, this should be explicit in a block (agree that separator block might be a good option).

In regards to removing empty blocks, I think this should be an explicit action by the user (clicking a button, for example), rather than an implicit action on save (or other). There might be many cases when a user might add some empty blocks (like image blocks) for a different person to add content later.

[jasmussen]

wpautop could be seen as precedent for "cleaning up" empty blocks on save. But I agree this feels unpredictable. Not sure what the best approach is, I think I still lean towards letting a user insert empty blocks if they want. (Even though removing them on save would solve some other reports)

I still believe empty block should be removed. If a user wants an empty space, this should be explicit in a block (agree that separator block might be a good option).

We have a ticket for multiple styles of the separator block #728, one of them could be just space? That said, I still think this would be discoverable. Peope like their linebreaks, it's what works for creating space in any other editor.

[jasmussen]

What if, like also discussed in #1171, we embraced writing prompts even more? Here's a full sequence of mockups:

Essentially, if a text block is empty and unfocused, it shows a placeholder. That placeholder is different depending on whether it's at the end of the post, or in between text.

Edit: to clarify, this means I'm suggesting we don't auto remove paragraphs, but we make it visible that they exist.

[saracannon]

The placeholder text is an interesting idea. It will definitely prompt a user to delete if it's empty because the words are not part of their post. When you hover there also be a trash can icon to the right?

[jasmussen]

Yep, the trash can will be there on hover.

[paaljoachim]

It would give the user better control to have just the title. Then the user clicks the inserter to add a text box OR there could be one text box available on a new page.

Having a write or continue writing seems confusing. As it automatically inserts a text box without my knowledge or it wanting to do so. Clicking write and suddenly there is another text box below that again. It kinda seems like a bug and not intended. Having a Write or Continue Writing is assuming that the user wants to add another text box, but that might not be the case.

• Clicking enter twice creates another text box.
  Here I was trying to create a 1 line space between paragraph 1 and paragraph 2 while trying to keep the paragraphs in the same box. The editor forces me to have paragraph 1 and 2 in different boxes. Clicking enter inside a box really should just add a line. When I am ready to create another text box I can just click the inserter and add one.
• Clicking Write or Continue Writing adds another text box.
  Both of these takes away the control the user has over creating their own layout. Giving the user the feeling that there is a flow they have to follow to do things correctly.

[jasmussen]

@paaljoachim

To be clear, the placeholder is just a an indicator, it isn't actually a textfield until you create it. It's necessary for you to be able to quickly get writing again after inserting an image as the last block. Without it you'd have to click "insert > Text", which gets tired quick.

@mtias had some ideas for how to improve this, though. For example we can show it when you're done typing.

[paaljoachim]

So what I am understanding here is the importance of having a quick way to add more text without having to insert -> Text. Do we need a quick bar or some other visible way to add text and other most used blocks?
There can also be shortcuts for adding the most used blocks. That could perhaps be listed beside the block inside the inserter. Just like a bunch of other programs. I can create a new issue for block shortcuts or add on to the existing issue 71 for keyboard shortcuts.

I am not sure what I think of the above wireframe I just made that includes a most used quick bar. Visually it might just be too much. As we should have as little as possible cluttering the layout screen.

[karmatosed]

Some apt user feedback from tests:

"I found the Write placeholder initially helpful before I added my first block. After I'd added a block I found it unhelpful & actually confusing. I wasn't sure where clicking the + icon would add the new block"

"I unintentionally created 3 extra blank blocks before properly adding the image blog"

Empty-blockitis is a frequent test result.

[jasmussen]

I'm not convinced empty blocks is a problem. They can be a nice way to add linebreaks. But the "Write..." prompt makes it worse, I admit.

What if the write prompt was only visible if you hovered or clicked the block?

[mtias]

Let's see how the latest changes help with this before trying something else here.

[youknowriad]

Should we consider this as resolved with the current placeholders showing exactly the empty paragraphs?

[jasmussen]

I think so, yes. We can always reopen if we need to.