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EIPIP Meeting 96 #300

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poojaranjan opened this issue Nov 29, 2023 · 7 comments
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EIPIP Meeting 96 #300

poojaranjan opened this issue Nov 29, 2023 · 7 comments

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Date and Time

Dec 13, 2023 at 16:00 UTC

Location

Zoom: TBA in the Discord #eip-editing channel

YouTube Recording: EIPIP Meetings

Agenda

1. EIP Process Standardization

2. Discuss Open Issues/PRs, and other topics

Call for Input

Call For Input Status Result Comments
https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/EIPIP/issues/287 Open - Deadline completed on Nov 19, 2023
https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/EIPIP/issues/291 Open - 1 Editor voted to oppose. Multiple other responses added. The deadline ended on November 30, 2023.
https://github.com/ethereum-cat-herders/EIPIP/issues/293 Open - 2 Editors opposed to merging the PR. The deadline ended on Dec 09.

Changes to Final proposals

3. Other discussions continued or updates from past meetings

Changes to Final EIPs

  • Why Final EIPs are "Immutable"?
  • Specify conditions under which Final EIPs can be updated.

4. EIPs Insight - Monthly EIPs status reporting.

5. EIP Editing Office Hour

6. Review action items from earlier meetings

Next Meeting date & time

Jan 03 at 15:00 UTC?
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Need a process for moving/cloning EIPs as RIPs and how they are numbered.
EIP7212 has been moved or cloned (not clear on which yet) and whether it is best to keep the same number: https://github.com/ethereum/RIPs/pull/5/files#r1424823634

Can't attend the meeting as the time is incompatible with life in Australia.

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If time permits, @smartprogrammer93 and I would be happy to discuss an idea to introduce a versioning scheme for Standards Track EIPs: ethereum/EIPs#8034

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items added!

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Summary

1. EIP Process Standardization

Updates on ethereum/ERCs#1

  • PandaPip wasn't available. No updates were shared.

Web Page Rendering

  • @SamWilsn has been working on webpage rendering
  • Continued working on eth-review bot wrt working group-based rendering
  • It's possible to have one domain to render all working group-based eips.

Need a process for moving/cloning EIPs as RIPs and how they are numbered.

  • suggested by @abcoathup
  • EIP-7212 has been moved to RIP repo. The question is whether to have the same or a new number.
  • @SamWilsn mentioned that he supports having an L2 working group manage the process.
  • @gcolvin mentioned that the group should have the freedom to decide on the process but it will be nice to have them part of the EIP-ERC numbering system to have unique EIP, ERC & RIP documentation.
  • @poojaranjan and @gcolvin agreed that "Core" is not the best category as that enlists proposals for the Ethereum Mainnet deployment.

2. Discuss Open Issues/PRs, and other topics

ethereum/EIPs#8034

  • Danceratopz and Ahmad Bitar introduced this new proposal.
  • Major, minor, patch versioning
  • It will be helpful for testing team and other following the breaking changes of the specification.
  • Closely tied to EIP status, helpful for implementation
  • Changelog has to be added for tooling but EIP editors has to be more attentive.
  • It can be author provided.
  • It can not go retroactively update older EIPs but for future EIPs only.
  • @SamWilsn with questions helped us understand the proposal even better, worth following the discussion
  • Overall people on the call considered to be a good proposal.
  • Victor (ERC editor) shared generally positive feeling and follow the implementation on EIPs side to be considered on the ERC side as well.

Call For Input

#287

@SamWilsn doesn’t feel comfortable without consulting other Editors on the call.
Victor: Leave them as is
Greg: Moved
Matt: Delete (but mostly indifferent)
@SamWilsn will update and close the Call for Input

#291

  • Editors may add comments
  • Will be closed by EOD today

#293

  • Editors may add comments
  • Will be closed by EOD today

Changes to Final proposals

Update 1271

  • Howey
  • Found some weird edge case with 1271
  • Hoping to have the disclosure process to update the proposal
    @SamWilsn thinks it is good venue to talk about Security vulnerability in general

In response to do we want to update a Final EIP with “Security vulnerability”

  • Matt: Probably not
  • Victor: Yes, but depends on case by case
  • Greg: no opinion

@poojaranjan suggested to have Call For Input to have conditions specified under which a “Final” proposal can be updated

Next Meeting date & time - Jan 03 at 15:00 UTC

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Closing in favor of #302

@ethcatherders ethcatherders deleted a comment Dec 21, 2023
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Hello @poojaranjan, any update about these PRs?

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Added to the next agenda!

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