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2021 07 29 WZDx Specification Update Subgroup meeting
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July 29, 2021, 1:00-2:00pm EDT
- Continue discussion of potential approaches to address outstanding GitHub issues
- Review proposed approaches to modifying the specification through Pull Requests (PRs)
- Identify members to draft PRs for prioritized issues
- Sign-in and Welcome
- Review Open PRs
- Discuss Other Outstanding Issues
- Action Items and Next Steps
- Resolves issue #169.
- Adds clarifying text to the description for the
reduced_speed_limit
property on the RoadEvent object indicating that the value should be in miles per hour. - Clarifies that
reduced_speed_limit
only needs to be supplied if speed limit within road event is lower than the posted speed limit.
Discussion:
- Mike Hanowsky: Speed limits and speed guidance are different. Is there no way of indicating that speeds are reduced without knowing the value?
- Jacob: Those are good points but should be new issues to consider for next cycle. The purpose of this issue was just specifying units
- Resolves issue #153.
- Marks the
lane_number
property on the RoadEvent object as deprecated. This was discussed during the last cycle but didn’t make it into v3.1
- Not connected to an issue
- Removes all object properties and enumerated type values that were marked as deprecated in the WZDx v3.1 release.
- It was noted at the time of release and in the documentation that the deprecated elements would be removed in a future major WZDx version
- Since the fall 2021 release will be v4.0 (major version change), WZDx is still in the earlier adoption phase, and there has been no objection during any subgroup meetings in the v4.0 development cycle to removing the deprecated fields, this change will happen for v4.0.
- For review: we don't expect objections to removing given small number of producers right now. If you have thoughts or the history of why they were deprecated, that's available on GitHub via reference.
- Resolves issue #128.
- Deprecates the
lrs_type
andlrs_url
properties from the RoadEventDataSource object. - Original issue proposed adding enumerated types to make the field more useful, but previous discussions didn't generate any options and the field is not currently used.
- #5 is about lane vs. ramp and whether direction of egress matters to consumers. Left/right isn't for the position, but the direction of egress - no one has expressed interest in keeping the egress direction
- #149 is more expansive and would drop. Lane types are not really to indicate position, and status is used for any real-time impacts on a lane
- Type would be used to represent the lane's function:
- General
- Sidewalk
- Bike-lane
- Exit-ramp
- Entrance-ramp
- Shoulder
- Center-left-turn-lane
- Parking (new)
- Painted-median (new)
- If a median is raised or grass used to separate roadway would indicate a separate roadway which should not be included in the same road event
Discussion:
- Opposition to dropping left and right?
- Opposition to dropping exit lane?
- Neil: Massachusetts would use exit lane to represent an auxillary lane (exit-only or an entrance lane after it's been added). Ramp is after the gore point
- Jianming: +1 to Neil's comment. Ramps and lanes are different.
- Skylar: We also use entrance lane in Iowa but that's not in the spec - could we add that?
- Neil: Point about NH having a high-speed interchange
- General or normal?
- Jeremy: I like general
- Neil: We use "general purpose lane" in traffic engineering
- Turning lanes would also be removed from lane types
- Reasons for limiting options?
- Kali: The National ITS Architecture has the ability to add localized definitions. Is there a reason we're being so specific? In SoCal we call it SigAlerts and may have localized names that we use. Why not include that in WZDx?
- Jacob: The specification should define a set of types and how they are used, and convert to WZDx for the purpose of dissemination
- Eli: We can find a way to conform to this using other tools, this is about code for navigation providers and the standard can make them more interchangeable rather than focusing on vocabulary.
- Inclusion of sidewalk and bike lanes
- Dave: A large amount of our consumers are mapping companies, which give directions for walking and biking as well. If we're closing off lanes and can also report that we're closing sidewalks or bike lanes, then we should because that's important to them. We don't want to imply that cars can drive on sidewalks, but if a road is torn up and a bike lane is torn up, then we should annotate that.
- Multiple lane types for a single lane
- Vinod: Could we allow multiselect to allow for multiple uses?
- The RoadEvent level
restrictions
currently only consist of a type, but no value. This issue details an option for reformulating the LaneRestriction object to be more general and use it for the restrictions property on a RoadEvent object - Values in the Restriction object are still optional, so no additional information is necessary for a RoadEvent
- Will create a PR with the additional enumerations proposed in the issue as well as:
-
all-lanes-open-shift-left
andall-lanes-open-shift-right
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- This should capture almost all lane level impacts available
- Some vehicle impacts may be missing but should cover majority of situations
- Propose adding a verification method enumeration
- Using GPS equipped devices
- Using GPS equipped devices with continuous reporting
- Field staff
- Camera
- Subgroup members discussed the best way to handle recurring events on Monday (July 26)
- Concluded that adding a “schedule” object to a road event would likely lead to worse accuracy in WZDx feeds b/c work zone properties frequently change each day (location, lanes closed, etc)
- Develop business rules formalizing using multiple road events for a recurring work zone
- Develop business rule with options to indicate relationship between recurring work zone events using ID and relationship properties
- Co-chairs haven’t moved this issue forward much, but there are a few potential solutions:
- Add Boolean to RoadEvent indicate mobile work zone?
- Add business rules about updating location and using
update_date
? - Issue overlaps with SWZ Subgroup – likely to hold a follow on meeting to get into this issue with both groups members
- Currently
update_date
is required on the feed-level RoadEventFeedInfo but optional on both the RoadEventDataSource and RoadEvent. - Feed-level
update_date
doesn’t provide enough info to know whether RoadEvent info has been recently updated or confirmed. - At a recent co-chairs meeting, the co-chairs realized it’s necessary to define when producers should to use this field. It’s unclear if the date should be when the information was last updated, when the feed was accessed, etc
- Probably can't be in the next release
Next meeting tentatively scheduled for Thursday, August 19, 2021 Action items before next meeting:
- Participate in discussion on issues and pull requests on GitHub related to the WZDx Specification and add suggested updates, comments, and any other feedback
- Contribute to resolving issues by creating pull requests
The current deadline for finalizing pull requests for v4.0 is August 19, 2021.
Name | Organization |
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Jingwei Xu* | HERE Technologies |
David Craig* | General Motors |
Jacob Brady* | IBI Group |
Skylar Knickerbocker* | Iowa State University |
Lee Jackson | Bentley Systems |
Mahsa Ettefagh | Booz Allen Hamilton |
Eli Sherer | GEWI NA |
Eric Kolb | |
Jeremy Agulnek | HAAS Alert |
Peter Krikelis | Hill and Smith |
Ivo Kushkiev | Hill and Smith |
Ross Sheckler | iCone |
Jim Williams | INRIX |
Sinclair Stolle | Iowa DOT |
Hua Xiang | Maryland SHA |
Neil Boudreau | Massachusetts DOT |
Vinod Chandran | Navjoy Inc. |
Navin Nageli | Navjoy Inc. |
Frank Winters | New York State/NSGIC |
Kellen Shain | Noblis |
Kali Fogel | RIITS |
Eneliko Mulokozi | RTC of Southern Nevada |
Jianming Ma | Texas DOT |
Rob Hoyler | TomTom |
Yang Cheng | University of Wisconsin-Madison |
Molly Behan | USDOT Volpe Center |
Nate Deshmukh Towery | USDOT Volpe Center |
Hadrian Merced Hernandez | USDOT Volpe Center |
Mark Mockett | USDOT Volpe Center |
Chuck Felice | Utah DOT |
Tony Leingang | Washington State DOT |
Qassim Abdullah | Woolpert |
Michael Hanowsky | Woolpert |
* Co-chair of the Specification Update Subgroup
Wiki
Work Zone Data Working Group [Archive]
- 2020-08-05: WZDWG semi-annual meeting: minutes, recording
- 2020-02-05: WZDWG semi-annual meeting: minutes, recording
- 2019-12-12: WZDWG semi-annual meeting: minutes, recording
- 2019-07-25: WZDWG kick-off meeting: minutes, recording
Specification Update Subgroup [Archive]
Technical Assistance Subgroup [Archive]
- 2021-02-09: WZDx Technical Assistance Meeting #2: minutes, recording
- 2020-11-19: WZDx Technical Assistance Subgroup Meeting #1 (kickoff): minutes, recording
- 2020-04-06: Technical Assistance Subgroup meeting #1: minutes, recording
Technical Assistance Subgroup Archive
Worker Presence Subgroup