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2022 03 07 Specification Extension Subgroup
March 4, 2022
- Introduce the co-chairs for the Spec Extension Subgroup
- Discuss subgroup’s charter and planned activities for this cycle
- Propose additions to the feed for member feedback
- Welcome and Co-Chairs Introduction
- Charter Scope and Activities
- Proposed Extensions
- Questions & Discussion
- Brandon Patocka - City of Omaha Parking and Mobility Division
- Manages GIS for the division, includes leases and loading zones.
- Omaha does a lot of closures for events, and are interested in using WZDx for resurfacing.
- Eric Kolb - Google
- Maps team GIS Team Manager - basemap freshness updates (POIs, geocodes, roads).
- Goal is to freshly update coverage of base map - road restrictions and work zones cover that.
- Frank Winters - New York State GIO
- History with GIS, previous president of National States Geographic Information Council
- Frank: I don't expect people to come to our GIS website to download data. They're going to use the things they're already connected with, and the role of govt is going to change. We have authoritative data and that plays a role in the ecosystem.
- Weimin Huang - HERE Technologies
- Researcher. Looking to expand data collection with WZDx feeds and to introduce their imports to the data sets
Serve as the lead steward in identifying, drafting, and recommending potential extensions to the WZDx Specification.
- An “extension” is defined as any change to the specification that includes functionality outside of delivering data specifically for work zones.
Identify Data Needs
- Work with the community to identify other feature types that would improve the WZDx Specification.
Evaluate Feasibility
- How many Infrastructure Owner Operators (IOOs) already produce the data?
- How difficult would it be for more to produce it?
- Determine whether extending the specification to include such data would be useful to the community.
Draft Specification Extension
- Obtain a sample dataset from an IOO or other party currently producing the respective data.
- In collaboration with data producers and data users, draft an extension to the WZDx Specification that includes the dataset.
Make Recommendations
- Provide feedback on the respective data to the Specification Update Subgroup and the broader community, including a demonstration of how to incorporate the new data into the existing specification.
- Obtain feedback from the working groups (e.g., the WZDWG and/or respective subgroups) to determine if the extension is useful and appropriate for the WZDx Specification.
Topic | Activity / Milestone | Tentative Date |
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Administration | Finalize subgroup participants | Jan 2022 |
Administration | Review and approve charter | Jan 2022 |
Administration | Gain co-chair consensus on feature(s) to develop during sprint Jan 2022 | |
Extension Development | Draft Specification Update Recommendation (content, object model, business rules) | March 2022 |
Extension Development | Socialize development plan with the WZDx subgroup chairs | March 2022 |
Extension Development | Finalize Specification Update Recommendation (content, object model, business rules) | June 2022 |
Extension Development | Make end-of-cycle recommendation of including optional feature(s) at Semi Annual Meeting WZDx WG | July 2022 |
Candidate Feature Development | Draft list of potential road events | January 2022 |
Candidate Feature Development | Socialize list among the community (Ask for additions, ask for rankings) March 2022 | |
Candidate Feature Development | Adjudicate collected remarks March 2022 | |
Candidate Feature Development | Finalize list | April 2022 |
Candidate Feature Development | Suggest a feature(s) to develop on during the next update/specification development cycle | July 2022 |
Frank: This group started focused on work zone safety and information. We talk about extending what we've learned about safety to other highway matters. How do we do that without burdening the work zone component? And how do we ensure what we've developed with work zones is translatable?
- One of NYSDOT's top priorities is protecting people and facilities from bridge strikes, and because they were interested in that they're also now interested in work zones.
- The community and technology we build is repeatable across applications.
- The extensions we're talking about are attributes of vehicle interacting with the attributes of the roadway - that thread (started last cycle with bridge heights) is continued here
- We're talking about adding new enumerated types but don't have a comprehensive list of values to add to the extension
Add enumerated type VehicleImpact to RestrictionRoadEvent
- VehicleImpact already exists and is used by the WorkZoneRoadEvent in the main WZDx feed
Value | Example Use |
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Closure | Crash, emergency, weather, special events, etc |
Seasonal-use | Winter use only, summer use only |
Road-limitation | Four-wheel drive required, weight restriction |
Moving-events | Line striping, oversized load, etc. |
- Frank: We debated whether seasonal use only is a type of closure. It could be done as a closure - and say every spring that the road is closed. The data exists as "this is a seasonal road" and knowing the time of year allows you to know if the road is closed.
- Frank: For the road limitation, this could be a road that's only accessible to four-wheel drive, even if the road is fully open.
- Frank: Moving events like a striping work, or an oversized load
Add the property "cause" to the Restriction object
- Used to describe why a restriction occurs
- Field would remain optional
Could be an enumerated Type containing:
- Natural event (flood, wildfire, etc.)
- Crash
- Special event (marathon, street festival, etc.)
Frank: We thought the cause of the restriction is good for consumers to know. Maybe more useful for humans. Could be an enumerated type to explain why a closure is taking place
Frank: Right now, RoadEvents can only be start/end point or a full line. It may be more appropriate to allow Polygons, especially for special events.
- If we don't add polygons, then the author would have to make linear events for all those events. With polygons, then it puts the onus on the
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Jeremy: How do you balance the spec getting bloated, overstepping its purpose and trying to do too much with one thing?
- Frank: That's a discussion we had with bridge clearance. Work zones were unchanged, and the restrictions were added along side it but without impacting it. We're adding more lanes to the specification, rather than make the existing lanes wider.
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Jeremy: Don't mapping companies already collect this static data?
- Frank: Even if you fit with a truck under a bridge, if you're truck is taller than the sign is you're breaking the law.
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Ben: Does the restriction road event handle reduced width?
- Derald: Yes
- Frank: We're not trying to replace permitting for oversize/overweight. But a lot of the data is available and can be expressed here for vehicles that don't
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Should we add ground clearance?
- Frank: Yeah
- Maaza: Ground clearance - we don't have anything to let people know. Being given best information of what to expect. Or availability of being able to cross the desert. From sources that know information very well.
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Craig Moore: Where do we draw the line between something inherent to the network, and a specific temporal restriction? Ice roads and marathons are definitely temporal, but lane width doesn't have a start and end. Do we want to cross that threshold? If we do, where do we stop?
- Frank: We already crossed that line with bridge clearance, though we do replace 50 bridges every year so there is some temporal component. Those restrictions became a highlight because it was a key safety issue, particulary bridges low enough to impede legal trucks.
- Craig: I get the safety thing but don't understand how we differentiate the authoritative source. Describing the base network muddies the mission. Key to include that definition of what should be found in WZDx. Esp. when there's no temporal end.
- Derald: In my mind, the boundary should be wherever we can improve safety. Bridge clearance is a key safety issue. I don't want to water down the work zone data spec. As far as the temporal aspect - if a driver is traversing a segment of road, they just need the information needed to be safe on that segment. Doesn't matter if it's a day, month, or yearlong - that's a temporal scale.
- Jeremy: I'd love to hear from map providers on this, since it encroaches on their area.
- Eric Kolb: From a consumer aspect, this data (structures, from authoritative providers) is extremely useful. We spend a lot of resources collecting road conditions for the network, but we can't keep it at the highest fidelity needed. We rely on authoritative data to augment and sometimes supersede what we collect ourselves - we analyze/arbitrate the authority/fidelity of our data vs. outside.
- Weimin: HERE uses a similar approach. We rely on provider input - 511, other exiting data sources. Then we have our sensor data and compare to determine which is more accurate, and put it out on the road and analytical data for routing. The quality we get from high functional classes is in much better shape than lower functional classes. We can make improvements.
- Rob Hoyler: We follow what Google and HERE are doing and emphasize the collaboration and authoritative data to supplement our own activities. Legal aspects of height vs. what we see. Freshness - there's a lot of data to be collected and more that goes into navigation than what some people think. Collaboration is important for when changes occur to get appropriate data to the public as quickly as possible. A push from authoritative providers is critical.
- Frank: Govt. brings the crystal ball to know when a change is coming.
- Craig: I think adding railroad crossings would improve safety but doesn't belong in the spec
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Neil: How about truck excluded roads or HazMat excluded roads?
- Mark: Truck-excluded roads can already be represented in the current RoadRestrictionFeed
- Neil: When you have a well thought out traffic plan, you think about where trucks can't go. If a bridge joint pops without a planned traffic alternate - if mapping providers offer an alternate route that a truck shouldn't go down, that's an issue we should know.
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Stan Young: A last verified date might be useful for tracking data freshness
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Frank: Are there more types? What about the list of causes?
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Chris: We may want to look at expanding what's in part 6 in the work zones spec. Intermediate term, mobile, and etc could be considered a work zone?
- We don't want people cutting into a moving event - if there are several vehicles in the event, we need a line string to represent where the whole thing is.
- Crash is a good one for special events
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Craig: Would it be better to define seasonal use as a type of closure rather than a separate restrictions value?
- Weimin: Seasonal closure doesn't require updates as often as an incident closure.
- Rob: That's one of the fuzzy closures - we know it happens the same time each year (roughly). You loose some of the dynamic capabilities
Frank: The chairs will do more work on this online
Name | Organization |
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Mahsa Ettefagh | Booz Allen Hamilton |
Brandon Patocka* | City of Omaha |
Jacob Larson | City of Omaha |
Hannah Adeponu | City of Omaha |
Craig Moore | City of Seattle |
Ben Acimovic | Colorado DOT |
David Craig^ | General Motors |
John Ehlen | Gistic Research |
Eric Kolb* | |
Jeremy Agulnek | HAAS Alert |
Jeremy Agulnek | HAAS Alert |
Maaza Mekuria | Hawaii DOT |
Weimin Huang* | HERE |
Pete Krikelis | Hill and Smith |
Todd Hartnett | Hill and Smith |
William Twaite | Hillsorough County |
Casey Inoue | Houston Radar |
Michelle Boucher | IBI Group |
Jacob Brady | IBI Group |
Juan Pava | Illinois DOT |
Pete Stresino | Illinois DOT |
Mischa Kachler | Indiana DOT |
Clayton Burke | Iowa DOT |
Brandon Saylor | Kentucky Transportation Cabinet |
William Martin | Leidos |
Laura Huizinga | Lindsay |
Alexander Lemka | Maricopa County DOT |
Neil Boudreau | Massachusetts DOT |
Nisar Ahmed | Metropolitan Transportation Commission (Bay Area) |
Chris Brookes | Michigan DOT |
Ted Ulven | Minnesota DOT |
Daniel Rowe | Minnesota DOT |
Dan Smith | Missouri DOT |
Stan Young | National Renewable Energy Lab |
Tony English | Neaera |
Tim Fiato | New York State DOT |
Frank Winters* | New York State Office of Information Technology Service |
Justin Anderson | Noblis |
Tim Johnson | North Carolina Department of Information Technology |
John Copple | Sanborn |
Lynne Randolph | Southwest Research Institute |
Rob Hoyler | TomTom |
Yaw Adu-Gyamfi | University of Missouri |
Elizabeth McCartney | US Geological Survey |
Derald Dudley | USDOT Bureau of Transportation Statistics |
Martha Kapitanov | USDOT Federal Highway Administration |
Molly Behan | USDOT Volpe Center |
Hadrian Merced | USDOT Volpe Center |
Nate Deshmukh Towery^ | USDOT Volpe Center |
Mark Mockett | USDOT Volpe Center |
Logan Arens | Ushr Auto |
Armando Lagunas | Ushr Auto |
Chuck Felice | Utah DOT |
Pier Castonguay | Ver-Mac |
Justin Belk | Washington State DOT |
Erin Schwark | Wisconsin DOT |
Qassim Abdullah | Woolpert |
Michael Hanowsky | Woolpert |
* Co-Chair of Specification Extension Subgroup
^ Co-Chair of Work Zone Data Working Group
Wiki
Work Zone Data Working Group [Archive]
- 2020-08-05: WZDWG semi-annual meeting: minutes, recording
- 2020-02-05: WZDWG semi-annual meeting: minutes, recording
- 2019-12-12: WZDWG semi-annual meeting: minutes, recording
- 2019-07-25: WZDWG kick-off meeting: minutes, recording
Specification Update Subgroup [Archive]
Technical Assistance Subgroup [Archive]
- 2021-02-09: WZDx Technical Assistance Meeting #2: minutes, recording
- 2020-11-19: WZDx Technical Assistance Subgroup Meeting #1 (kickoff): minutes, recording
- 2020-04-06: Technical Assistance Subgroup meeting #1: minutes, recording
Technical Assistance Subgroup Archive
Worker Presence Subgroup